Does anyone else have an insanely high metabolism?

Tren4Evah

Tren4Evah

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I kid you not, I maintain my weight on 4500calories, any less and I lean out big time. And I’m not some super heavyweight open bodybuilder. Currently trying to push around 6000cals daily to get the scale to move and fuck I can’t do it.

In between the period where I couldn’t bodybuild, I had gotten on a medication that crushes your appetite. For those of you who are wondering what it is, it is Wellbutrin. Not a traditional antidepressant that works on seratonin, it goes through noreadrenaline pathways, so to sum it up, it’s gooder. Saved my life if I’m being honest but that’s besides the point and not the topic of this thread.


What do you “hard gainers” do to force the food down? Secret sludge shakes? Uranium? I’m a a loss right now
 
I said screw it and took up olympic weightlifting instead, lol. My muscles were big enough I figured, and I never competed in BB, but I did compete in powerlifting.

But I remember the guys using lots of strategies: Gallon of milk a day, milk + mass gainer like this one on canadianprotein.com: https://canadianprotein.com/products/mass-gainer?variant=31988403470383. Tons of ice cream too. I loved that shit. Ben & Jerry's cookie dough ice cream was the best.

Of course the test/tren/hgh/insulin combo makes people insatiable (or so I've heard...)

Dave Tate (powerlifter) in a speech said he used to buy a large pizza, and put oil over the entire pizza just to get his calories up. That was when Westside Barbell was at its peak, their strategies for food was kinda crazy. Strongmen too. I like watching some of their videos on their daily eating habits. 10k cal/day seems like the minimum, lmao.

At some point maybe you just gotta force it down? IDK. Good luck with your goals regardless.
 
Tren4Evah said:
I kid you not, I maintain my weight on 4500calories, any less and I lean out big time. And I’m not some super heavyweight open bodybuilder. Currently trying to push around 6000cals daily to get the scale to move and fuck I can’t do it.

In between the period where I couldn’t bodybuild, I had gotten on a medication that crushes your appetite. For those of you who are wondering what it is, it is Wellbutrin. Not a traditional antidepressant that works on seratonin, it goes through noreadrenaline pathways, so to sum it up, it’s gooder. Saved my life if I’m being honest but that’s besides the point and not the topic of this thread.


What do you “hard gainers” do to force the food down? Secret sludge shakes? Uranium? I’m a a loss right now
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What do you weigh?

I have a high metabolism. I only weigh 190 at 6 feet but in my 30s and 40s I had to eat 4000+ calories to maintain now at 54 i still have to eat 3400 to maintain.

Add healthy fats. More avocado. Nuts are great. Add pecans and or walnuts to your oatmeal or cream of rice. Add almond butter or PB to your smoothies plus.
 
Tren4Evah said:
I kid you not, I maintain my weight on 4500calories, any less and I lean out big time. And I’m not some super heavyweight open bodybuilder. Currently trying to push around 6000cals daily to get the scale to move and fuck I can’t do it.

In between the period where I couldn’t bodybuild, I had gotten on a medication that crushes your appetite. For those of you who are wondering what it is, it is Wellbutrin. Not a traditional antidepressant that works on seratonin, it goes through noreadrenaline pathways, so to sum it up, it’s gooder. Saved my life if I’m being honest but that’s besides the point and not the topic of this thread.


What do you “hard gainers” do to force the food down? Secret sludge shakes? Uranium? I’m a a loss right now
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Whoa, and here I thought mine was abnormally high at 3200. 😂
 
What are your macros?

is protein at 1-1.5 grams per lb?
Are fats at least 100g?…which probably needed for high metabolism

If maintenance is 4500, why 6000?? If activity levels consistent and If you are weighing food to ensure consistency, you are in a surplus at 200 cals over maintenance. Then go up by 200 once you plateau. 1500 increase does not make sense. What happens when you eat 4700 per day?
 
until I hit my 40's I could eat anything and never get fat.

I used to jam the extra calories in with milk and protein powder. Ice cream milkshakes with 5 egg whites and 2 whole eggs every night before bed, lol.

Bagels

Los of nuts.

It was super difficult for me to gain mass because if I took a couple days off from forcing the food in, I would lose weight.
 
Wouldnt consider myself a hardgainer but at this point every offseason from here on out will likely exceed 7000 calories per day. Luckily I have a good appetite but even in that case, pushing that much food for months on end is tough. Some things that I've found help are:

- Simple thing, but focus on making your food as tasty as possible. This offseason I introduced sauces and flavoured cream of rice, they helped alot.
- When rice portions exceed 400g per meal, we added in some more dense carbs like dried fruit, honey & bread.
- Movement between meals to both help dispose of some blood sugar, but also help keep digestion moving and feeling less full.
- Insulin is excellent for stimulating appetite, but dont use haphazardly if you're not informed on safe use.
 
BanditNOLIMIT said:
Wouldnt consider myself a hardgainer but at this point every offseason from here on out will likely exceed 7000 calories per day. Luckily I have a good appetite but even in that case, pushing that much food for months on end is tough. Some things that I've found help are:

- Simple thing, but focus on making your food as tasty as possible. This offseason I introduced sauces and flavoured cream of rice, they helped alot.
- When rice portions exceed 400g per meal, we added in some more dense carbs like dried fruit, honey & bread.
- Movement between meals to both help dispose of some blood sugar, but also help keep digestion moving and feeling less full.
- Insulin is excellent for stimulating appetite, but dont use haphazardly if you're not informed on safe use.
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Honey, dates, sourdough bread were a life saver when eating more.

I think your first point is the most important for most. Making your food taste good, makes things go down easy. I always found adding something with moisture to the usual chicken and rice always helped. Some greek yogurt, home made tzatzki, etc.
 
powerrack said:
Honey, dates, sourdough bread were a life saver when eating more.

I think your first point is the most important for most. Making your food taste good, makes things go down easy. I always found adding something with moisture to the usual chicken and rice always helped. Some greek yogurt, home made tzatzki, etc.
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100% agreed. There have been many nights where im staring at my last meal and my mind is thinking "hell yeah I cant wait to eat this because its gonna taste so good" but my stomach is begging more mercy. lol.
 
Oldguyjiujitsu said:
What are your macros?

is protein at 1-1.5 grams per lb?
Are fats at least 100g?…which probably needed for high metabolism

If maintenance is 4500, why 6000?? If activity levels consistent and If you are weighing food to ensure consistency, you are in a surplus at 200 cals over maintenance. Then go up by 200 once you plateau. 1500 increase does not make sense. What happens when you eat 4700 per day?
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Yeah protein fats and stuff is good, I track all my stuff, just haven’t been able to keep the food down. Throw up most days on my way to work, at gym, at home. Used to be able to do it just fine before the medication
 
I'm not counting macros now but I'm likely at the 4k+/day range and maintaining. Trying to cut down a bit now but I just get so damn hungry all the time and in a deficit I can't even make it through the night without eating peanut butter at 3am to kill the hunger until I can eat a proper meal. I have the fuel efficiency of a Bugatti.

My Dr. gave me Wellbutrin which is an NDRI to try to help me cope when I got Tinnitus as the SSRI's I was told to take made me borderline suicidal. I didn't notice much effect on appetite reduction but I could only handle the lowest possible dose so I just stopped taking it as I can't
handle serotonin or dopamine modulators. I have legit PTSD from them now and the irony isn't lost on me.

As for eating to gain weight, when I was in that stage of life I remember eating 6+ meals a day to the point of almost vomiting, then have some more. You just have to eat and eat and eat more, its rough, if eating does not feel like an overtime job then you're not eating enough.
 
DeeKnows said:
@Tren4Evah
Your overdoing the food and the side effects are going to kill you soon......
Just kidding, i couldnt resist.

A lot of guys have that issue when theyre very active, bodybuilding and pushing higher doses. Adding shakes to meals helps, liquifying foods in a blender helps. Added fats to meals like olive oil, mayo, avocado oil, nut butters.
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That's just it eh? I have my TDEE all figured out, but once I'm on cycle it all goes out the window, and my new TDEE can be wildly different depending on compounds and doses. I ran nandrolone for the first time over the winter (NPP + Test + primo + hgh), and my body became a damn blast-furnace. I'd eat carbs and just start sweating like a pig lol. My wife couldn't sleep too close to me because I was radiating heat. I had to eat a lot more than expected to gain any mass.
 
I find eating pretty plain food is easier to get down.

Like chicken and rice, I just cook the chicken in lawreys seasoning salt with a lot of garlic and onions and extra oil, then mix it in with the rice and add salt and pepper and I can easily eat that 2 times a day, 2 cups at a time.
 
vancitybb said:
That's just it eh? I have my TDEE all figured out, but once I'm on cycle it all goes out the window, and my new TDEE can be wildly different depending on compounds and doses. I ran nandrolone for the first time over the winter (NPP + Test + primo + hgh), and my body became a damn blast-furnace. I'd eat carbs and just start sweating like a pig lol. My wife couldn't sleep too close to me because I was radiating heat. I had to eat a lot more than expected to gain any mass.
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Even without the gear, when I came completely off everything including testosterone for 4 months, and got down to 170lbs, I was still having to eat around 4000-4500.
 
It's a tough thing to navigate. Obviously the addition of calorie dense foods over lesser so is the direction you want to go. But it has to balance with easily digestible as well....which unfortunately don't always coincide since the most calorie dense macro is fat.

You have to also keep it interesting and change it up when it becomes brutal to eat.

Guys can be all over the map with preferences to get them in but it's always going to come down to choosing calorie dense options that don't stick in your gut like a giant rock.

Meds complicate things further....always.
 
BanditNOLIMIT said:
Wouldnt consider myself a hardgainer but at this point every offseason from here on out will likely exceed 7000 calories per day. Luckily I have a good appetite but even in that case, pushing that much food for months on end is tough. Some things that I've found help are:

- Simple thing, but focus on making your food as tasty as possible. This offseason I introduced sauces and flavoured cream of rice, they helped alot.
- When rice portions exceed 400g per meal, we added in some more dense carbs like dried fruit, honey & bread.
- Movement between meals to both help dispose of some blood sugar, but also help keep digestion moving and feeling less full.
- Insulin is excellent for stimulating appetite, but dont use haphazardly if you're not informed on safe use.
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What COR brands do you like? I'm a fan of Helixx, but they've only got the two flavors. I tried some biscoff flavored one off Amazon and it wasn't great.
 
Try to eat larger meals.(fewer but larger) This slows down digestion. Are you an energy drink kind of guy? Tea? Coffee? Stims? My metabolism was crazy insane but dropped off after I stopped biking every day and having a lot of pop / energy drinks.
 
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