Would low dose cholesterol medication be good for longevity or cycles?

Oldguyjiujitsu said:
@Heraclitus a CT calcium score in AB is $460 but you only need one every 5 years. As an investment in your health, it’s the equivalent of 2 vials of test per year. I would suggest if it’s available to people in their province it should be a must before agreeing to take a statin.
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Agreed.
My Dr wanted me on a statin based solely on LDL but wouldn't give me a requisition. I had a CIMT done in the states, that showed zero thickening.

Dr. said "but guidelines say" and still wanted me on a statin.

For the next lipid panel I crushed my LDL by boosting carbs for 6 weeks and he was happy.

When asked how I did it,
"Swapped out sardine and eggs breakfasts for pancakes with syrup,
and started eating desserts after dinner.

Because that's healthier right? 🤡 "
 
Heraclitus said:
Agreed.
My Dr wanted me on a statin based solely on LDL but wouldn't give me a requisition. I had a CIMT done in the states, that showed zero thickening.

Dr. said "but guidelines say" and still wanted me on a statin.

For the next lipid panel I crushed my LDL by boosting carbs for 6 weeks and he was happy.

When asked how I did it,
"Swapped out sardine and eggs breakfasts for pancakes with syrup,
and started eating desserts after dinner.

Because that's healthier right? 🤡 "
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How were your triglycerides and HOMA2-S,B,IR after boosting carbs?
 
HOMA2-IR (Insulin Resistance):

Strongly associated with increased cardiovascular risk.

Insulin resistance can lead to high blood pressure, dyslipidemia (high triglycerides, low HDL), chronic inflammation, and atherosclerosis—all risk factors for heart disease.



2. HOMA2-B (Beta-cell Function):

If beta-cell function is poor (low HOMA2-B), it may signal progressing diabetes, which is a major risk factor for heart disease.

Overactive beta cells (high HOMA2-B) might also reflect a compensatory response to insulin resistance, often seen in early metabolic syndrome.



3. HOMA2-S (Insulin Sensitivity):

Low HOMA2-S implies poor insulin sensitivity (i.e., insulin resistance), which again ties back to higher heart disease risk.
 
Bigbear said:
How were your triglycerides and HOMA2-S,B,IR after boosting carbs?
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I only measured TRigs.
They doubled and my HDL tanked.

So my TG/HDL-C Ratio went from exceptional, to borderline high risk.

Dr didn't care, said the values were within range.
He didn't appear to know anything about the ratio being of value as an indicator.
 
OhBoy said:
I take Crestor 10mgs every second day for a couple of years now and everything is good.
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I take it 3 times a week now, It has solved the problem .......I was on it daily and had serious joint pain, Doc revised dosage
 
gondar1 said:
On the flip side crestor put me in the hospital with severe rhabdomyolysis. Quite literally could have killed me if the little woman hadn't demanded I go to the ER. They warn you about specific muscle pain but I just hurt all over like after a car crash. Thought I just had a wicked flu. GP was kinda pissed when he saw the labs, said they should have kept me longer, right on the edge of dialysis.

This is not a sky is falling post, just a heads up to stay aware especially if you are self medicating - find a way to get the appropriate labs before you do some damage you aren't immediately aware is happening.
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Because your dosage was high, I had the same as you, I could not figure out why...but you can take it 1-3 a week and will show results without the pains!
 
Scorpio said:
Because your dosage was high, I had the same as you, I could not figure out why...but you can take it 1-3 a week and will show results without the pains!
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Possibly but I think unlikely, I'm pretty sure it was daily but I can't remember the dose, I do remember that everyone was surprised that whatever the dose was gave me rhabdo, repetitively questioning me looking for any other cause or contributing factors. GP said something that we say round here alot, individual responses vary. Still have the same dr's now and none have ever tried to get me on a statin since.

BTW I didn't reply to argue against your comment, I appreciate that you took the time, It just seems statins may not be a fit for me.
 
gondar1 said:
Possibly but I think unlikely, I'm pretty sure it was daily but I can't remember the dose, I do remember that everyone was surprised that whatever the dose was gave me rhabdo, repetitively questioning me looking for any other cause or contributing factors. GP said something that we say round here alot, individual responses vary. Still have the same dr's now and none have ever tried to get me on a statin since.

BTW I didn't reply to argue against your comment, I appreciate that you took the time, It just seems statins may not be a fit for me.
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All good, I did not take that way at all....You are correct...Statins are not for everyone and they have sides that can impact some people hard! I complained to my Dr. he revised the dosage, its been 2 years now and no issues
 
Try citrus bergamot, vitamin C, lysine and eat your fish oil, like from salmon or golden smoked kippers or something. Do that while off cycle. All those things work together. Also cardio. No, low dosage cholesterol medication is not a good idea. If you're not even above the reference range then that's absurd in my opinion. Also there are different forms of ubiqonal. On the back it'll show it's some variation which I heard isn't the same.

Your numbers can be slightly above reference range and you're still fine, most people's are.

I will say that you actually need to live at the good health markers, not get good health markers and then just launch them back up a week later, of which they often will lol.

Did you see blood work show that taking your supps worked to keep things low while on cycle? I heard that you can't really, "dry the cement, while blasting it with a fire hose.".
 
Devson said:
Try citrus bergamot, vitamin C, lysine and eat your fish oil, like from salmon or golden smoked kippers or something. Do that while off cycle. All those things work together. Also cardio. No, low dosage cholesterol medication is not a good idea. If you're not even above the reference range then that's absurd in my opinion. Also there are different forms of ubiqonal. On the back it'll show it's some variation which I heard isn't the same.

Your numbers can be slightly above reference range and you're still fine, most people's are.

I will say that you actually need to live at the good health markers, not get good health markers and then just launch them back up a week later, of which they often will lol.

Did you see blood work show that taking your supps worked to keep things low while on cycle? I heard that you can't really, "dry the cement, while blasting it with a fire hose.".
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Honestly that's the rout I originally chose and prefer but I started a new job recently and for the first year I won't be making as much so I've had to cut back on a lot of shit. This low dose medication is just to temporarily hold me over. Its free and works. If you don't mind me asking what is the downside of cholesterol meds in your opinion? Is it based on research or experience?
 
Crestor (generic name: rosuvastatin) is a statin medication primarily used to lower cholesterol, but it offers a range of health benefits. Here's a comprehensive list:

Cardiovascular Health Benefits

1. Lowers LDL cholesterol ("bad" cholesterol), reducing plaque buildup in arteries.


2. Raises HDL cholesterol ("good" cholesterol), which helps remove LDL from the bloodstream.


3. Lowers triglycerides, reducing the risk of heart disease and pancreatitis.


4. Reduces risk of heart attacks and strokes in high-risk individuals.


5. Slows progression of atherosclerosis, helping to prevent artery hardening and narrowing.


6. Reduces need for revascularization procedures, such as angioplasty or bypass surgery.


7. Improves endothelial function, promoting better blood vessel dilation and circulation.


8. Lowers systemic inflammation, particularly C-reactive protein (CRP), a marker of cardiovascular risk.



Other Health Benefits

9. Prevention of cardiovascular events in people with normal cholesterol but elevated CRP (as shown in the JUPITER trial).


10. Potentially stabilizes existing plaque, making it less likely to rupture and cause a clot.


11. May reduce risk of venous thromboembolism (blood clots in veins).


12. Mild blood pressure reduction in some individuals.


13. Supports kidney health in certain populations (e.g., reduces proteinuria in diabetics).


14. Might offer protection against certain types of dementia by improving vascular health (evidence is still emerging and not definitive).
 
Crestor (rosuvastatin) can reduce existing plaque buildup, though the effect is typically modest and happens over time.

How it works:

Rosuvastatin lowers LDL cholesterol and inflammation (e.g., C-reactive protein), which helps stabilize atherosclerotic plaques and may allow some regression.

It reduces lipid content in the plaque and promotes a more stable, fibrous cap, lowering the chance of rupture (which causes heart attacks and strokes).


Evidence:

The ASTEROID trial (2006) showed that rosuvastatin 40 mg/day led to a small but measurable regression of coronary plaque as seen on intravascular ultrasound after 24 months.

The trial found about 7% plaque reduction in LDL levels reduced to ~60 mg/dL and HDL increased by 14.7%.
 
I have to admit if I read this about some rare supplement I would be buying it along with omegas and ubiquinol etc. It'd probably be top of my list
 
Bigbear said:
Honestly that's the rout I originally chose and prefer but I started a new job recently and for the first year I won't be making as much so I've had to cut back on a lot of shit. This low dose medication is just to temporarily hold me over. Its free and works. If you don't mind me asking what is the downside of cholesterol meds in your opinion? Is it based on research or experience?
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Its been awhile since I looked into it but from what I remember a very reputable person and then also my doctor said that with a lot of them it can cause massive kidney problems in people very quickly or other side effects. Some people can take it, some can't and also which one matters but it was the popular bodybuilding ones that my doctor was like it could mess up your kidneys.

Get a kidney function test to make sure you're not one of those people. I feel the crunch financially too. When you're ready though there is always a good cutting season and intense cardio plus fun low impact summer cardio to be had my man! Dieting saves money and loose skin.
 
Devson said:
Its been awhile since I looked into it but from what I remember a very reputable person and then also my doctor said that with a lot of them it can cause massive kidney problems in people very quickly or other side effects. Some people can take it, some can't and also which one matters but it was the popular bodybuilding ones that my doctor was like it could mess up your kidneys.

Get a kidney function test to make sure you're not one of those people. I feel the crunch financially too. When you're ready though there is always a good cutting season and intense cardio plus fun low impact summer cardio to be had my man! Dieting saves money and loose skin.
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Thanks man good to know. I'm only on 5mg too so thats almost a micro dose compared to 40mg which some people take. I believe it can be equally as hard on the liver too.
 
Scorpio said:
daily?
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Yea daily. I haven't seen blood work yet but my cholesterol was just at the top of normal range and I told my doc thats with cardio, and multiple supplememts so im curious to see what this low dose on its own can do.
 
If Im reading thos correct, I dont think your taking the right supplements for cholesterol. Citrus bergamot, green tea and nattokinase are much more effective. If you only want crestor based off cost of supplements, I think your doing it for the wrong reasons
 
Cheapshot said:
If Im reading thos correct, I dont think your taking the right supplements for cholesterol. Citrus bergamot, green tea and nattokinase are much more effective. If you only want crestor based off cost of supplements, I think your doing it for the wrong reasons
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Cool man I respect that, why do you think that? I'm also using it just prophylactically for all of its heart benefits but I just thought I'd wing it and see how blood looked. I have used citrus bergamot too quite a bit and Ubiquinol but I originally planned on only having the crestor for during heavy cycles but like you mentioned its cheaper then supplements so I think just longevity wise I may continue unless I find a good reason not to.
 
I also took fish oil for cholesterol and it worked great on triglycerides like its supposed to I've just never been able to find something that works for lowering ldl and raising hdl. Only progress I've ever made was tiny tiny increments but I think I may have a genetic predisposition to hyperlipidemia or whatever its called.
 
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