Deca vs NPP

Digitalmachine

Digitalmachine

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Hey everyone. I'll be starting a bulking cycle soon and have used NPP in the past but not DECA. I had no bad reaction to NPP but generally I do enjoy taking my oils EOD. Is there truly a difference between NPP and Deca? I have non-issue taking deca and psychologically I feel deca is just old and tested and does the job, I know NPP is newer. Can anyone comment on whether there truly is any difference and if I have no problem taking npp, should I just stick to deca? Thanks for any and all advice, you guys are always very helpful. Thank you.
 
Historically both of these esters of nandrolone have been around for more than 50 years… Deca durabolin was the original long acting ester and then Organon also introduced a short acting ester in Durabolin (NPP). Obviously the shorter acting nandrolone aka NPP will clear your system faster than the long acting version aka Deca. Reduced frequency of injection is the main drawing card towards using Deca vs NPP. Once your system is saturated with the nandrolone ester the effects of both are the same overall. It is the same hormone. Just note the clearance rates out of the body are different.
 
EazyE said:
Historically both of these esters of nandrolone have been around for more than 50 years… Deca durabolin was the original long acting ester and then Organon also introduced a short acting ester in Durabolin (NPP). Obviously the shorter acting nandrolone aka NPP will clear your system faster than the long acting version aka Deca. Reduced frequency of injection is the main drawing card towards using Deca vs NPP. Once your system is saturated with the nandrolone ester the effects of both are the same overall. It is the same hormone. Just note the clearance rates out of the body are different.
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So essentially no different than test E versus prop. Or mast prop vs Mast e. Same thing right? All I care for is the results that come from deca itself. If I can obtain the exact same results I am happy. I just thought perhaps deca itself may be stronger or may yield better growth etc.
 
Digitalmachine said:
So essentially no different than test E versus prop. Or mast prop vs Mast e. Same thing right? All I care for is the results that come from deca itself. If I can obtain the exact same results I am happy. I just thought perhaps deca itself may be stronger or may yield better growth etc.
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Digitalmachine said:
So essentially no different than test E versus prop. Or mast prop vs Mast e. Same thing right? All I care for is the results that come from deca itself. If I can obtain the exact same results I am happy. I just thought perhaps deca itself may be stronger or may yield better growth etc.
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Same compound and different ester. Both do the exact same thing except for the ester. @EazyE explained it well. It takes 2 weeks for the sexual impact from deca and 4 days on NPP, same with clearance. I prefer NPP simply because if there is going to be a 'great week / vacation' I want to clear the compound so NPP is better. That being said Deca has a long half life and 1 or 2 shots per week should be sufficient.
Many says EOD or M, W, F for NPP but I find it works fine twice a week. When I take my test E, I just put the NPP in - 2 shots per week.
If the dosage is the same of NPP and Deca - over an extended period you should reap the same benefits.
Suspect if money is an issue - Deca will overall be less expensive and everyone doesn't like injecting EOD or ED. I take injectable health supplements for inflammation and pain so ED injections don't bother me. My ass is big enough there are 4 good spots and both shoulders so same spot every 6 days.
I would love to see the science behind NPP not causing lack of sex drive or ED and Deca causing ED and lack of desire considering logically it maks no sense.
There is a member I have a lot of respect for here who has commented on injecting NPP twice a week and just as good results as 3-4 injections a week. I believe it was @storman - correct me if I misquoted you Storman.
 
Goldenrod said:
There is a member I have a lot of respect for here who has commented on injecting NPP twice a week and just as good results as 3-4 injections a week. I believe it was @storman - correct me if I misquoted you Storman.
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I have run it eod, mwf and monday-thursday and if the dose is equal i have never felt a lick of difference. Im not saying not to inject more but it can be some successfully with twice a week.
Like tren ace, i prefer mwf instead of eod. Also have never seen or felt any difference.
Some people feel less sides by injecting more but im not one of them.
Also if im running long esters and im busy, i may jab 2 fully loaded pins once a week to get it done. Then i dont have to think about it again. This i understand could fuck some people up but im fine with it.
 
storman said:
I have run it eod, mwf and monday-thursday and if the dose is equal i have never felt a lick of difference. Im not saying not to inject more but it can be some successfully with twice a week.
Like tren ace, i prefer mwf instead of eod. Also have never seen or felt any difference.
Some people feel less sides by injecting more but im not one of them.
Also if im running long esters and im busy, i may jab 2 fully loaded pins once a week to get it done. Then i dont have to think about it again. This i understand could fuck some people up but im fine with it.
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I ran NPP for the first time this winter and was very happy with it. I used the short ester as some others had experienced some mental sides, and I thought this might be wise in case I had to bail, but no such sides occurred, so I'm glad I can run deca at a similar amount without concerns, as I have a few boxes of the Genetec ampules to find a use for.

Since the beginning of even TRT, I have stuck with M/W/F for everything, I just add compounds to that schedule if needed. Obviously I have no other frame of reference, but if that is working, I'll stick with it.

@storman , or anyone else with experience, do you have any opinions on the high deca/low test vs. high test/high deca type of debate that I see frequently? If I were to ramp anything up with deca involved, I'm wondering which it should be.
 
Slartibartfast said:
@storman , or anyone else with experience, do you have any opinions on the high deca/low test vs. high test/high deca type of debate that I see frequently? If I were to ramp anything up with deca involved, I'm wondering which it should be.
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I am/was a high test guy cause i just did well and felt good with it. I have tried low test/high other compounds and its ok but i prefer the higher test. I cant comment on which route would be better for you.
I dont like deca at all but i can run npp. I can run tren ace with npp and do great as long as the total doses of 19nors dont get too high.
I personally feel a big difference between deca and npp. Just like tren ace vs tren enth. Its similar but also very different
 
storman said:
I am/was a high test guy cause i just did well and felt good with it. I have tried low test/high other compounds and its ok but i prefer the higher test. I cant comment on which route would be better for you.
I dont like deca at all but i can run npp. I can run tren ace with npp and do great as long as the total doses of 19nors dont get too high.
I personally feel a big difference between deca and npp. Just like tren ace vs tren enth. Its similar but also very different
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What are the big differences you feel between deca and npp? Anything with respect to the results you get? For example if you took 250mg if NPP vs 250mg if deca per week. I think what throws some people off is the name is completely different where with other compounds we literally call it Mast P or Mast E or Test P or Test C and so forth. Not sure why they didn't just call it Nandrolone P and Nandrolone E lol
 
Either one! Like it's been said already it's only difference is the delivery system (ester)
For me, it depends on the cycle I'm going to run, do I need to cut pip by splitting and diluting a shot? If so I would probably use Npp over Deca and split the shot up by 3 or 4 opposed to long esters of 2 shots a week.

Also depends on if this is going to be a blast cycle! All short esters 6 weeks on 6 weeks cruise 6 on. Npp would be choice.
 
storman said:
I am/was a high test guy cause i just did well and felt good with it. I have tried low test/high other compounds and its ok but i prefer the higher test. I cant comment on which route would be better for you.
I dont like deca at all but i can run npp. I can run tren ace with npp and do great as long as the total doses of 19nors dont get too high.
I personally feel a big difference between deca and npp. Just like tren ace vs tren enth. Its similar but also very different
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mind me asking how many mg week is high test??
 
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