Clay's 2018/19 winter cycle log sponsored by Dracorex Labs and GHcanada

Clay11

Clay11

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Ok, so I have a lot to cover here, not sure really where to start but I am just gonna wing it. Last year I was sponsored by Vortex for my winter cycle and it went ok, I had some good results, not what I was expecting from a gram of primo/week but all in all it was'nt a total waste. I finished in May and looked good for the summer, problem is at this point in my life I do like to enjoy my life so I took 4 months off from training, frankly ate and drank way to much and spent all my downtime from work at the cottage and away with the trailer(bought a new one this year) All this being said it's time to get my ass back in gear and I started doing cardio and light lifting at the beginning of Oct to get back in the groove. So far so good. I was approached by someone whom I trust and has a solid reputation to do a sponsored log for a new lab, Dracorex.
I went through some old logs and found one very successful run in 2010 and I am doing this again starting Nov 1 in addition I have been given an opportunity to do GHcanada's gold top gh at 5iu/day for this 20 week cycle.
I have only been on 200ish mg test / week since May and am ready to get back on! My cycle will be;
1200mg/week Deca
800mg/week test e
25mg/day proviron
5iu gh/day
.5 mg adex eod
.5mg caber mon/thurs
Weeks 1-4 and 17-20 60mg t-bol/day
I am also lucky enough to have a coach to guide me through this run and give weekly feedback on my diet and training, this is first for me so I am hoping to optimize this into a very successful cycle.
I got blood drawn yesterday and will be going every 8 weeks to monitor myself as I go. I will be posting about how I feel and how I think things are working.
Attached are pictures of the gear and gh and I will be posting pics of my progress as I go. I am looking to really capitalize on all these things and come out the other end in some of my best shape ever. Thanks in advance for following along!
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Seeingblind said:
Why is the deca so high?
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It is where I find it's most effective for me personally, not what works for everyone but just what works well for me. I have done lower and higher once and dropped it down to find the sweet spot for me. Through trial and error over the years this is where deca shines for me.

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Followed your previous cycle and looking forward to seeing your results as you post.
Never heard of lab, but presentation looks good!
Good luck brother and will follow with interest!
 
So just a quick post with a couple comments on the gear with a couple more pics. The tabs from Dracorex are nice, very hard, and have a professional appearance with the logo stamped on them. The oils drew up nicely and the bottles all appear evenly filled. Doing first 3ml shot in the morning ad will be reporting how it feels.
The GHcanada gh also has a professional appearance and re-constituted well, I am doing first shot in am, 5iu and will report how the injection site reacts.
Arms in the morning and I am glad day 1 is here....
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You will enjoy the gh. You will not need to overdose it. It is good. I use 1 iu of the first batch green tops is equal to 3 iu of the older Neuvotrope. The Grey tops are supposed to be a bit better, I have a kit but havnt tried it yet.
I have no doubt you’ll be fine.
On the green tops I go hypo if I use 2 iu a day. But gh makes me go hypo. Works on my colon at 1 iu a day as well, where I used to use 3 iu at a time of the other product to get the same effect.
5 iu of the Eliete would kill me, lol. Enjoy.
 
So just a quick post to say first shots went well, I felt the test and deca sitting in my glute 6-8 hours later but that's not unusual, nothing as of now however, the gh was sub-q beside the belly button and it's fine, no lumps or hard spots and no heat, flushing or crazy hunger after though I did train arms writhing 20 min of the shot.
All said no issues to report.

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A couple days in if you are prone to going hypo you will. My third day in with 2 iu a day did it to me. I never go flushing, crazy hunger or anything with gh. Peptides can do that though.
 
Sorbate said:
A couple days in if you are prone to going hypo you will. My third day in with 2 iu a day did it to me. I never go flushing, crazy hunger or anything with gh. Peptides can do that though.
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Yes, that's the point I was making about flushing and hunger that lots of "gh" I have tried in the past has done this and it's always been an indicator that it's a mix of peptides....so far none of that to report which is promising[emoji16]

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Yes, that's the point I was making about flushing and hunger that lots of "gh" I have tried in the past has done this and it's always been an indicator that it's a mix of peptides....so far none of that to report which is promising[emoji16]

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My colon knows, you can’t fool it. If it isn’t real gh, it knows. I can tell strength by how much I have to use to heal my guts. I bet even without testing it’s a 10 iu vial. Or damn close. I’m basing this on what I have learned the old Neuvotrope was and the difference in the two amounts I need to use.
 
I really appreciate the feedback Sorbs its reassuring to hear a good experience going into this....5iu/day sponsored by GHcanada is going to be a game changer this time round and I am believing in it and running with it....
It's On!

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ABMonkey said:
What are the direct benefits of using HGH do you notice?
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At this point, 2 days in...nothing, in 8 to 10 days I should be sleeping more deeply, having a difference in complection, and well a couple weeks after that an over all sence of well being and energy with the beginnings of some physical signs of the fat loss effects. I am not a believer in the old mantra it takes 8-12 weeks to feel effects of gh.....that's be, I have had a friends script before and they were 72iu pens, and even at 2iu a.day I noticed.in in a week and saw it physically in about 3....so that's the other indicator for me.
That all being said...energy, leaning out despite calorie surplus on bulk, growth and healing on less sleep than normal and great skin, nails and overall look and feeling. Fuck I am a well worn 46 year old 267lb dude and it drops like 10 years off me physically and I can push that much harder in cycle.
Those are my past experiences....let's see what comes from this....frankly, I am feeling great about it....

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Sorbate said:
Your wallet gets lighter, lol.
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Yeah the gold top elites are not cheap but gonna be well worth the return for those wanting the highest quality, at least that's my point of view derived from feed back from friends doing the level down and having great results.
I will have a much more concrete point of view in 4 weeks.....then it will be telling a tale already for sure!

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Clay11 said:
At this point, 2 days in...nothing, in 8 to 10 days I should be sleeping more deeply, having a difference in complection, and well a couple weeks after that an over all sence of well being and energy with the beginnings of some physical signs of the fat loss effects. I am not a believer in the old mantra it takes 8-12 weeks to feel effects of gh.....that's be, I have had a friends script before and they were 72iu pens, and even at 2iu a.day I noticed.in in a week and saw it physically in about 3....so that's the other indicator for me.
That all being said...energy, leaning out despite calorie surplus on bulk, growth and healing on less sleep than normal and great skin, nails and overall look and feeling. Fuck I am a well worn 46 year old 267lb dude and it drops like 10 years off me physically and I can push that much harder in cycle.
Those are my past experiences....let's see what comes from this....frankly, I am feeling great about it....

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If money was no issue it is something to run year round?
 
ABMonkey said:
If money was no issue it is something to run year round?
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Money and reliable source are.always the two issues, but yeah I'd say 8 on 4 off,,just like most my cycles. I'd run it a month in and a month after through Ptc, but if ur on Trt and don't come off lower dose to 1-2iu daily while on trt and still reap the benifets. However this being said, I believe this for us over 45 guys....not the young guns....moderation works best the younger u are....so if that's the case I would take 4 months off every 12 and try to reset....but fuck...who am I but and old back....lol....lots of protocols out there...

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