Would love some insight into my bloodwork

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Cycle: 300 test C, 280 primo E, 20 mg avavar PWO 5 mg Cialis PWO. Injection frequency EOD.
Perferred Lab : Genetec


Would love insight on my estrogen to my test ratio. Not taking an A.I. currently, any supplementation youd recommend to lower kidney levels such as creatinine and urea.
 
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Hey @Nodnoah

Ideal estrogen levels are individualized. What works best for me might not work for you. Personally, my best progress growth wise occurred with estrogen levels very elevated. Let’s say 3-4x outside of the ref range. Is that healthy? Most likely no. It was damn near impossible to keep my blood pressure down. But from a growth, performance and recovery standpoint, it worked great. My libido was also at a peak. Id recommend testing the waters and allow your estrogen levels to creep up a bit more. Either A) add in more test for some more aromatization or B) lower the primo.

As a whole, your blood work is basically flawless. No concern at all with your kidney markers or any markers for that matter.
 
BanditNOLIMIT said:
Hey @Nodnoah

Ideal estrogen levels are individualized. What works best for me might not work for you. Personally, my best progress growth wise occurred with estrogen levels very elevated. Let’s say 3-4x outside of the ref range. Is that healthy? Most likely no. It was damn near impossible to keep my blood pressure down. But from a growth, performance and recovery standpoint, it worked great. My libido was also at a peak. Id recommend testing the waters and allow your estrogen levels to creep up a bit more. Either A) add in more test for some more aromatization or B) lower the primo.

As a whole, your blood work is basically flawless. No concern at all with your kidney markers or any markers for that matter.
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Really appreciate the response, I am hesitant to lower primo as ive read anything under 300mg of primo is basically just theraupeutic, while im not looking for a HEAVY mass growth from primo id like it still to remain in the "anabolic" range. Ill consider adding in more testosterone. How would you say you can find an individual sweet spot? Do you go off sides alone?
 
Nodnoah said:
Really appreciate the response, I am hesitant to lower primo as ive read anything under 300mg of primo is basically just theraupeutic, while im not looking for a HEAVY mass growth from primo id like it still to remain in the "anabolic" range. Ill consider adding in more testosterone. How would you say you can find an individual sweet spot? Do you go off sides alone?
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200 primo is not a waste.
 
Prolactin at 4 is interesting

As mine is at 18 on trt lol

Blood work is solid
Don’t even need an ai


Seems you are someone who must be naturally lean his whole life

How long after your shot was bloods pulled
 
FitTrader said:
Prolactin at 4 is interesting

As mine is at 18 on trt lol

Blood work is solid
Don’t even need an ai


Seems you are someone who must be naturally lean his whole life

How long after your shot was bloods pulled
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Pin every other day so I took the test next day, after pining the previous.

Also naturally lean is not accurate, I actually was a bigger kid and hold a bit more water/weight/BF %

Popped a caber about a week ago by accident thought it was my var LOL
 
Nodnoah said:
Cycle: 300 test C, 280 primo E, 20 mg avavar PWO 5 mg Cialis PWO. Injection frequency EOD.
Perferred Lab : Genetec
Stats: 5'11, 24, 185 LBS,

Would love insight on my estrogen to my test ratio. Not taking an A.I. currently, any supplementation youd recommend to lower kidney levels such as creatinine and urea.

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Is this what you take EOD injection - so you are on 2,320 mg per week on some weeks that have 4 injections or is this the total for the week - 300 and 280. I believe this is per week but want to make sure. You also throwing an oral in there - what is the goal of this cycle? I am not trying to derail your thread but I can't make comment unless I know what your taking for sure and what your goals are. Less than 300 mg of Primo is not a waste - whoever said that is wrong. Is creatine a waste? What about protein powder? Do you think 200 mg per week of Primo will out perform a scoop of whey per day? Just my opinion but long cycles of Primo at low doses are great - you tend to keep more of what you gain.
Here is another example of your anavar (most likely the culprit) driving one of your liver enzymes over the normal range, albeit barely, but your kidneys are fine. I can't tell you how many people take Var and expect little liver involvement since it is metabolized mostly by the kidneys but it impacts the liver significantly.

How long have you been on this cycle?
Your hormones are fine if you aren't having any symptoms. Higher E is fine and it is still within normal parameters - as long as you aren't having any sides. If you aren't don't throw another drug at it.
 
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Goldenrod said:
Is this what you take EOD injection - so you are on 2,320 mg per week on some weeks that have 4 injections or is this the total for the week - 300 and 280. I believe this is per week but want to make sure. You also throwing an oral in there - what is the goal of this cycle? I am not trying to derail your thread but I can't make comment unless I know what your taking for sure and what your goals are. Less than 300 mg of Primo is not a waste - whoever said that is wrong. Is creatine a waste? What about protein powder? Do you think 200 mg per week of Primo will out perform a scoop of whey per day? Just my opinion but long cycles of Primo at low doses are great - you tend to keep more of what you gain.
Here is another example of your anavar (most likely the culprit) driving one of your liver enzymes over the normal range, albeit barely, but your kidneys are fine. I can't tell you how many people take Var and expect little liver involvement since it is metabolized mostly by the kidneys but it impacts the liver significantly.

How long have you been on this cycle?
Your hormones are fine if you aren't having any symptoms. Higher E is fine and it is still within normal parameters - as long as you aren't having any sides. If you aren't don't throw another drug at it.
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Thanks for the response this is total weekly dose, the dose is split for EOD injections should have prefaced.

This cycle is a TRT enhanced for me, goal is just lean clean gains over time trying to look more aesthetic, no competition, no power building either, I just adjust my test/primo accordingly depending on my blood markers. I have no desire to run anything more than test/primo/mast or EQ. Unless I want to do comp prep.

Anavar is added just as a little cosmetic effect for summer but I can definitely take that away for some extra cardio.

If my estrogen was out of the normal range. Wouldn't that be normal as my testosterone is also 3 times out of range? Sides wise im doing fine, but im trying to monitor my blood pressure more closesly.
 
Nodnoah said:
Thanks for the response this is total weekly dose, the dose is split for EOD injections should have prefaced.

This cycle is a TRT enhanced for me, goal is just lean clean gains over time trying to look more aesthetic, no competition, no power building either, I just adjust my test/primo accordingly depending on my blood markers. I have no desire to run anything more than test/primo/mast or EQ. Unless I want to do comp prep.

Anavar is added just as a little cosmetic effect for summer but I can definitely take that away for some extra cardio.

If my estrogen was out of the normal range. Wouldn't that be normal as my testosterone is also 3 times out of range? Sides wise im doing fine, but im trying to monitor my blood pressure more closesly.
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Hormones are interlinked and in general if your testosterone goes up, so does your estrogen but no one aromatises at the same rate. The only way to know is blood tests which you did and everything looks fine - not a doc.
I don't know how long you have been taking this for Primo has been known to act as a milder AI compared to arimidex or aromisin. Some people claim it crashes their estrogen but I have never noticed this. This is a logical reason for a lower E compared to T. Keep in mind, no one is alike and this could be your norm anyway. You will only know by safe experiments and getting blood work done - do enough and you will see a pattern.
GR
 
Nodnoah said:
Cycle: 300 test C, 280 primo E, 20 mg avavar PWO 5 mg Cialis PWO. Injection frequency EOD.
Perferred Lab : Genetec
Stats: 5'11, 24, 185 LBS,

Would love insight on my estrogen to my test ratio. Not taking an A.I. currently, any supplementation youd recommend to lower kidney levels such as creatinine and urea.

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Are you able to share where you get your labs done? Dynacare or etc...

I goto lifelabs and their testosterone maxes out at 52 so I have no clue where I truly sit (same units as yours).
 
Nodnoah said:
Thanks for the response this is total weekly dose, the dose is split for EOD injections should have prefaced.

This cycle is a TRT enhanced for me, goal is just lean clean gains over time trying to look more aesthetic, no competition, no power building either, I just adjust my test/primo accordingly depending on my blood markers. I have no desire to run anything more than test/primo/mast or EQ. Unless I want to do comp prep.

Anavar is added just as a little cosmetic effect for summer but I can definitely take that away for some extra cardio.

If my estrogen was out of the normal range. Wouldn't that be normal as my testosterone is also 3 times out of range? Sides wise im doing fine, but im trying to monitor my blood pressure more closesly.
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I was gonna say that’s a fuck load of gear for a guy your size! This also just lit a fire under my ass to get some of my own blood work pulled while on cycle. Thanks for the reminder
 
Creatine is fine, as you gain more muscle mass the higher it will get. Mine is on the top end of the range and I mentioned it to the uroligist and he stated, "yeah, you have a fair bit of muscle mass so that is normal"

Ok I can't tell you how that good it made me feel that he said I had a fair bit of muscle mass, lol. Considering I was in one of their floppy gowns.
 
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