Why is Testosterone undecanoate oil not approved for trt but oral undecanoate is.

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I'm a big fan of undecaoate, 100mg a week keeps my levels at 1000ng/dl consistently, but only enananthae and cypionate are available for prescription in Canada. Needless to say I buy mine ugl, although my prescription is enanthate.
 
You might receive a more detailed answer but I'm sure it will boil down to one thing, Money. The approval process isn't free and the demand likely is not projected to be enough to see a good return on investment for the realistic future.
 
It's because it's not as effective as people think for keeping blood levels stable. This is why Nebido is the least popular form of TRT in europe. It's because after 3 weeks testostosterone levels drastically drop to less than 40%. It's one hell of a rollercoaster ride. Most will return back to using enanthate or cypionate. testo undecanoate for TRT will give you very unstable blood levels and will have a great effect on your mood , energy and libido. For convenience, enanthate or Cyp is still the best for TRT. Even prop never really picked up when they were testing it for TRT purposes a few years ago because the constant pinning was really inconvenient especially for people travelling.
 
I think the reason it’s so fucky because some countries use nebido, but they don’t dose it like you do they do like 400 mg once every 6-12 weeks or something like that. I would totally use test U at one weekly 100 mg shot for sure but I don’t think that’s a prescribed dosing protocol used anywhere in the world. The reason for the high infrequent dosages is probably to minimize need for injection so the dr doesn’t have a patient needing a shot every week and taking up their oh so expensive time
 
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Jabroni said:
I think the reason it’s so fucky because some countries use nebido, but they don’t dose it like you do they do like 400 mg once every 6-12 weeks or something like that. I would totally use test U at one weekly 100 mg shot for sure but I don’t think that’s a prescribed dosing protocol used anywhere in the world. The reason for the high infrequent dosages is probably to minimize need for injection so the dr doesn’t have a patient needing a shot every week and taking up their oh so expensive time
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The problem with test undecanoate is that it releases extremely slow into the system, Most won't feel it until 8 weeks in which is why the undecanoate in sust is useless. But sust was made to be used for TRT specifically. Once the blood levels balance out, injecting it once a week won't cause any extra benefits compared to cyp or enth. And since it will be releasing so slow, your energy levels might also be lower than cyp or enth. Nebido is actually used very little in places where it's allowed. In europe the testosterone of choice for TRT is still enth since Cyp is an american test. Test undecanoate is also never used in the bodybuilding world because it's slow release doesn't make it the best option for bodybuilding and one of the reasons that sust dropped in favour from the 90's and people are just using single short to moderate released esters.
 
Stiranko said:
It's because it's not as effective as people think for keeping blood levels stable. This is why Nebido is the least popular form of TRT in europe. It's because after 3 weeks testostosterone levels drastically drop to less than 40%. It's one hell of a rollercoaster ride. Most will return back to using enanthate or cypionate. testo undecanoate for TRT will give you very unstable blood levels and will have a great effect on your mood , energy and libido. For convenience, enanthate or Cyp is still the best for TRT. Even prop never really picked up when they were testing it for TRT purposes a few years ago because the constant pinning was really inconvenient especially for people travelling.
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That's totally false. Taken once a week, my blood levels remain the same regardless of the day I get my blood drawn. No fluctuations whatsoever. Taking it every 3 or 4 weeks is the incorrect way to take it.
 
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The problem with test undecanoate is that it releases extremely slow into the system, Most won't feel it until 8 weeks in which is why the undecanoate in sust is useless. But sust was made to be used for TRT specifically. Once the blood levels balance out, injecting it once a week won't cause any extra benefits compared to cyp or enth. And since it will be releasing so slow, your energy levels might also be lower than cyp or enth. Nebido is actually used very little in places where it's allowed. In europe the testosterone of choice for TRT is still enth since Cyp is an american test. Test undecanoate is also never used in the bodybuilding world because it's slow release doesn't make it the best option for bodybuilding and one of the reasons that sust dropped in favour from the 90's and people are just using single short to moderate released esters.
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That's easy to fix. You can take 4 weeks at 200 mg/week and then lower to 100 mg for maintenance, or 2 weeks at 400 mg/week, or 1 shot at 800 mg and then 100 mg weekly for maintenance.

I felt totally fine at 200mg per week to start, and at the 4-week mark, I was already feeling supraphysiological and dropped it to 100 mg.
 
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Jabroni said:
I think the reason it’s so fucky because some countries use nebido, but they don’t dose it like you do they do like 400 mg once every 6-12 weeks or something like that. I would totally use test U at one weekly 100 mg shot for sure but I don’t think that’s a prescribed dosing protocol used anywhere in the world. The reason for the high infrequent dosages is probably to minimize need for injection so the dr doesn’t have a patient needing a shot every week and taking up their oh so expensive time
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Once a week test U is more stable than 3 times weekly test E or Test C, I'd argue, and less pinning. Strange its not standard practice imo.
 
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