Finally retired my pool timer

[Sorbate]

Yeah to you electricians this is old hat, but to me it’s an accomplishment.
I had my pool on a timer before that shut everything off right off the panel in the garage. I was great to be able to control the pump, but I wanted to be able to control the lights with the pump off, plus I needed to turn the heater off about 15-20 min before the pump so the pump could cool down properly. But I couldn’t do that with everything on the same timed circuit.

Yeah I know the timer is not grounded, it was dark when I finished and I love to live dangerously, lol. I’ll fix this afternoon.
Oh and if you can’t help yourself and like to figure out the wiring, the line in, is bottom left. Oh and the neutral is the blue line. I did wrap the line with white tape.

Now that the timer box is out beside all the equipment, I now have power to the lights all the time (it has its own remote controller to turn it off/on change colours) and I can connect the fireman’s switch to control the heater to turn off about 20 min before the pump, plus I ran some cab tire and waterproof locking plugs, so it will be a lot easier to remove the pump motor in the winter. The winter weather is brutal on the bearings even if I cover it, I had to replace the bearings once already after like 3 years, while I had it pulled apart, I changed the startup switch just in case.



I love learning new stuff.

I’ve been teaching myself about controls, but basic stuff with analog relays and such. I think the best part was learning how to read wiring diagrams.

I did build a control for the show cases at work, that completes a circuit in the temperature controls, where I can increase the temperature of the counters during peek power rates. I just used a basic 120 volt battery backup timer used for plug in house hold lamps, then transformed it to 24 volt so I didn’t need to use shielded cabling. Then placed 24 volt relays in all the showcase cabinets and wired it to close the temperature gauge circuit when it was powered. Saved me about $100 a month on my power bill. Cost me about $150 to build

Really wish I had more projects to work on.

 

[ElectricRocker]

Good job brother. Always nice to learn these kinda things. But relays are kinda old school in industry now. We are using PLC systems. Heck i want to take an old plc rack from work and set it up to control my house via computer lol just have no time it seems. When you start to figure out methods using relays it’s alot of fun how much stuff you can control. You seem pretty knowledgeable about this kinda stuff for a butcher ps the blue doesn’t have to get wrapped with white as an identifier. Only a hot conductor(not identified) that is used as a neutral shall be. But doesn’t hurt tho. Good job regardless I wish a lot more people would educate themselves in basic home wiring projects like you, you wouldn’t believe how many shit shows I used to come across in the house wiring days lol

 

[Sorbate]

Good job brother. Always nice to learn these kinda things. But relays are kinda old school in industry now. We are using PLC systems. Heck i want to take an old plc rack from work and set it up to control my house via computer lol just have no time it seems. When you start to figure out methods using relays it’s alot of fun how much stuff you can control. You seem pretty knowledgeable about this kinda stuff for a butcher ps the blue doesn’t have to get wrapped with white as an identifier. Only a hot conductor(not identified) that is used as a neutral shall be. But doesn’t hurt tho. Good job regardless I wish a lot more people would educate themselves in basic home wiring projects like you, you wouldn’t believe how many shit shows I used to come across in the house wiring days lol

I thought on 3 phase the blue was considered a hot conductor? I guess when you are wiring residential blue would never be hot, only black and red, lol. Makes sense now.

A PLC system was too expensive for me, plus I have no fucking idea how they work. My brother used to do controls on huge refrigeration systems and he laughs about how I still use relays, lol.

Yeah, I even know how a motor control works, lol. Had to fix the one on my grinder about 4 years ago. I know understand the magic of pressing one button for a second can keep the motor running until you press the off button, lol.
Shit I even know how a motor overload works.

The only reason I taught myself this stuff is because it saves me a ton of money at work if I can fix things myself. Plus I’m so bored of cutting and making sausage, I mastered that like 10 years ago, lol.

 

[ElectricRocker]

I thought on 3 phase the blue was considered a hot conductor? I guess when you are wiring residential blue would never be hot, only black and red, lol. Makes sense now.

A PLC system was too expensive for me, plus I have no fucking idea how they work. My brother used to do controls on huge refrigeration systems and he laughs about how I still use relays, lol.

Yeah, I even know how a motor control works, lol. Had to fix the one on my grinder about 4 years ago. I know understand the magic of pressing one button for a second can keep the motor running until you press the off button, lol.
Shit I even know how a motor overload works.

The only reason I taught myself this stuff is because it saves me a ton of money at work if I can fix things myself. Plus I’m so bored of cutting and making sausage, I mastered that like 10 years ago, lol.

Yep you’re correct, 3 phase it’s red black blue for the hot. Residential it’s red or black and then white for N. but I see you’re using teck cable so that as a 3 conductor comes red black blue.
Yeah for sure since you have a good handle on it, it would save you a bunch of $. Good to be able to do that kinda stuff yourself and you feel good at the end of the day accomplishing something you didn’t think you could. I deal with mostly all 3 phase stuff in industry now a days. Motor control ccts are a lot of fun except when the line is down and you have every staff member standing around you asking how long it’ll take lol. Electrical a finicky bitch

 

[Shrek]

Nice job. I used to do a lot of electrical work for a friends company back in the day. I loved working on live panels until one day buddy came up behind me with a taser and zapped me in the ass, which obviously caused me to slip with my lineman's and I got popped by the panel. Got some metal missing from those pliers and I still get a good laugh everytime I reach for them... needless to say I got him back good.

 

[ElectricRocker]

Wanna do a fun experiment at home lol. Take an old short extension cord. Split the wires so you have a black and a white. Expose about 2 inches of copper on both. Now get 2 nails, wrap the black around one and the whole around the other and tape with elec tape. Grab a hot dog and Stick each nail in each end. Now plug that sucker in. Fuck bbq’n this Cooks em nicely from the inside out hehe. Also try with a dill pickle for a side

 

[Bagua]

Definitely not in my skill set!

 

[Sorbate]

Yep you’re correct, 3 phase it’s red black blue for the hot. Residential it’s red or black and then white for N. but I see you’re using teck cable so that as a 3 conductor comes red black blue.
Yeah for sure since you have a good handle on it, it would save you a bunch of $. Good to be able to do that kinda stuff yourself and you feel good at the end of the day accomplishing something you didn’t think you could. I deal with mostly all 3 phase stuff in industry now a days. Motor control ccts are a lot of fun except when the line is down and you have every staff member standing around you asking how long it’ll take lol. Electrical a finicky bitch

Lol.

Yeah I used tech because I just dropped it on the ground under my deck. Shit is pretty much invincible. I use bx if I’m running a line in my garage and am too lazy to use conduit, which I am all the time.

I’ve renovated 3 houses now, everything from plumbing to electrical and man I’ve seen a lot of really horrible shit as well. I could understand in the past doing shoddy work, but now we have this resource called you tube. There is no excuse. If you are that dumb, don’t do it.

My favorite was one basement, I would get shocked by the fridge all the time, when I replaced the panel board with gyproc I checked the wiring, they ran 3 wire thru the walls in a daisy chain, every other plug being on a different hot line. Then when they ran out of 3 wire, they used standard 2 wire and the neutral became the ground and neutral, lol. So the load imbalance would come back as current on the outside of my fridge, lol. Fuckers.

 

[Sorbate]

Wanna do a fun experiment at home lol. Take an old short extension cord. Split the wires so you have a black and a white. Expose about 2 inches of copper on both. Now get 2 nails, wrap the black around one and the whole around the other and tape with elec tape. Grab a hot dog and Stick each nail in each end. Now plug that sucker in. Fuck bbq’n this Cooks em nicely from the inside out hehe. Also try with a dill pickle for a side

The pickles glow don’t they, lol.

 

[ElectricRocker]

The pickles glow don’t they, lol.

Lol you should try it and find out
But to save you, yes they do fun at night time in the dark get the real salty pickles lol

 

[ElectricRocker]

Lol.

Yeah I used tech because I just dropped it on the ground under my deck. Shit is pretty much invincible. I use bx if I’m running a line in my garage and am too lazy to use conduit, which I am all the time.

I’ve renovated 3 houses now, everything from plumbing to electrical and man I’ve seen a lot of really horrible shit as well. I could understand in the past doing shoddy work, but now we have this resource called you tube. There is no excuse. If you are that dumb, don’t do it.

My favorite was one basement, I would get shocked by the fridge all the time, when I replaced the panel board with gyproc I checked the wiring, they ran 3 wire thru the walls in a daisy chain, every other plug being on a different hot line. Then when they ran out of 3 wire, they used standard 2 wire and the neutral became the ground and neutral, lol. So the load imbalance would come back as current on the outside of my fridge, lol. Fuckers.

Yeah teck is the way to go for the outside stuff. It’s super tough man I’ve seen that shit put thru the ringer. Lol yeah I seen that shit also it’s crazy what you find in some older houses. No wonder why there are so many fires lol. Glad you know a lot about this stuff, fun talking about it since you understand the concepts I had a stove to check out one time and they woman said she’d get shocked cooking all the time she said it went on for 3 years. No idea how she made it that far cause when I checked the element to ground I was getting about 4 amps. Not a heck of a lot in context but it is for a human as 0.1 amp and above can kill

 

[Sorbate]

Yeah teck is the way to go for the outside stuff. It’s super tough man I’ve seen that shit put thru the ringer. Lol yeah I seen that shit also it’s crazy what you find in some older houses. No wonder why there are so many fires lol. Glad you know a lot about this stuff, fun talking about it since you understand the concepts I had a stove to check out one time and they woman said she’d get shocked cooking all the time she said it went on for 3 years. No idea how she made it that far cause when I checked the element to ground I was getting about 4 amps. Not a heck of a lot in context but it is for a human as 0.1 amp and above can kill

When the wired my shop, the electrician wired my 220 single phase stuffer wire as a three phase wire and used a 220 plug. 120 volts 20 amp grounded to the machine. I’m stuffing and I’m wet using casing wondering why I’m getting shocked, thinking the fan in the bottom is shorting, took the cover off, it’s fine, check the outside of the stuffer to a ground source and saw the voltage. Thank god my skin is thick, lol.
Yeah, went up top to the junction box and saw what he did. Now just to be fair, he was wiring my shop after hours to get it done for me quicker. It’s the only single phase piece I have.