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643dpb

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Looking for any advice I can get.

My plan was to increase to weekly Test 200mg and NPP 150mg for the next 12 weeks (or take your suggestions).

Current stack:
150mg Test-E weekly
100mg NPP weekly
2iu HGH daily

Been on TRT for a year, however, added NPP and HGH, 6 weeks ago in December.
Just a note, I have no symptoms of nipple sensitivity or gyno, libido and mood are good.
Physically, I'm 40 (male), 5'7" at 165 LBS ~15%BF right now and working to gain lean mass over the next couple months.

Thank you in advance.

Blood results from today:
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BanditNOLIMIT said:
Pretty barebones blood panel but everything on there looks good. With estradiol at the top of the reference range on your current protocol, you may need to introduce an AI if you decide to increase your doses.
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Thanks for this.
I've read it's possible that E2 was artificially elevated because I pinned Tuesday morning and did bloodwork Wednesday mid-morning, any truth to this?
 
643dpb said:
Thanks for this.
I've read it's possible that E2 was artificially elevated because I pinned Tuesday morning and did bloodwork Wednesday mid-morning, any truth to this?
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There will be peaks and valley that depend on your dosing frequency but I wouldn’t expect the swings to be drastic especially on such low doses.
 
643dpb said:
Looking for any advice I can get.

My plan was to increase to weekly Test 200mg and NPP 150mg for the next 12 weeks (or take your suggestions).

Current stack:
150mg Test-E weekly
100mg NPP weekly
2iu HGH daily

Been on TRT for a year, however, added NPP and HGH, 6 weeks ago in December.
Just a note, I have no symptoms of nipple sensitivity or gyno, libido and mood are good.
Physically, I'm 40 (male), 5'7" at 165 LBS ~15%BF right now and working to gain lean mass over the next couple months.

Thank you in advance.

Blood results from today:
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I wouldn't worry about your E unless you have symptoms unless you increase your T as E will try to keep up. Like Bandit said, you may need an AI.
I doubt, but anything is possible, 150 mg of Test E has you at well more than double the top of the range. Keep in mind Deca/NPP can show up on a blood panel as testosterone. Not in the same manner, for the ones I know of, as in 100 mg of test will increase your test more than 100 mg of NPP, but Deca/NPP normally increases the blood test. It does not mean you have more testosterone in your system, much the same as tren shows up as estrogen.
Albeit your good cholesterol is just below the bottom of the parameter, I would work to increase it - if you don't know why please google low HDL cholesterol. Simply adding a quality cod liver oil will help - I think Carleson's is the best. Its better to try one and see if it helps vs adding 3 as you may never know which one works best for your physiology.
There are lots of things you can do especially considering this is a very mild cycle so don't get concerned if fish oil does not do the trick.

Good luck!
 
Goldenrod said:
I wouldn't worry about your E unless you have symptoms unless you increase your T as E will try to keep up. Like Bandit said, you may need an AI.
I doubt, but anything is possible, 150 mg of Test E has you at well more than double the top of the range. Keep in mind Deca/NPP can show up on a blood panel as testosterone. Not in the same manner, for the ones I know of, as in 100 mg of test will increase your test more than 100 mg of NPP, but Deca/NPP normally increases the blood test. It does not mean you have more testosterone in your system, much the same as tren shows up as estrogen.
Albeit your good cholesterol is just below the bottom of the parameter, I would work to increase it - if you don't know why please google low HDL cholesterol. Simply adding a quality cod liver oil will help - I think Carleson's is the best. Its better to try one and see if it helps vs adding 3 as you may never know which one works best for your physiology.
There are lots of things you can do especially considering this is a very mild cycle so don't get concerned if fish oil does not do the trick.

Good luck!
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That's great feedback, I'll give the fish oil a go, thank you.
 
643dpb said:
Thanks for this.
I've read it's possible that E2 was artificially elevated because I pinned Tuesday morning and did bloodwork Wednesday mid-morning, any truth to this?
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What's your dosing schedule? Pin once a week and test next day can definitely lead to artificial readings on a number of readings. Pin daily and that changes. Other things like SHBG come into play but E levels are very dependent on what you can handle, and remember elevated T will lead to elevated E, isnt always a bad thing
 
Z155 said:
What's your dosing schedule? Pin once a week and test next day can definitely lead to artificial readings on a number of readings. Pin daily and that changes. Other things like SHBG come into play but E levels are very dependent on what you can handle, and remember elevated T will lead to elevated E, isnt always a bad thing
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I'm dosing EOD, so like you guys said, it's probably not artificially inflated, will monitor symptoms.
 
643dpb said:
Thanks for this.
I've read it's possible that E2 was artificially elevated because I pinned Tuesday morning and did bloodwork Wednesday mid-morning, any truth to this?
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100% possible, estrogen response to an E or C injection will typically peak between about 24 and 60 hrs post.
643dpb said:
I'm dosing EOD, so like you guys said, it's probably not artificially inflated, will monitor symptoms.
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had to chuckle at the wording, "artificially" ? yessir, I call everything going on here artificial. Once you introduce an exogenous hormone isn't everything after that?
 
BanditNOLIMIT said:
Pretty barebones blood panel but everything on there looks good. With estradiol at the top of the reference range on your current protocol, you may need to introduce an AI if you decide to increase your doses.
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Maybe npp is testosterone
Nandrolone is not easy to get rn
Your test is super hi and estrogen is hi

Iv seen this alot with others
Just my 2 cents
 
BanditNOLIMIT said:
Pretty barebones blood panel but everything on there looks good. With estradiol at the top of the reference range on your current protocol, you may need to introduce an AI if you decide to increase your doses.
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My estrogen goes down quite a bit when I spread things out over 3 injections per week, even long esters..

Goal is to keep the testorone peaks as low as possible, yet use same mg per week. I've had doctors tell me that it doesn't work that way, but I've had doctors agree with me.. I saw the difference in my blood work though
 
I’ve seen this firsthand over the years. On the same weekly amount, my E2 came back lower when I split injections up, even with long esters. I didn’t expect it either, but repeat bloodwork showed flatter levels and fewer peaks, and I felt better overall. Clearly individual, but it made a difference for me.
 
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