Orals for the ancient

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musclememory

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Is there such an oral that those older than dirt, such as myself, can use? I keep hearing that older peeps should not be using orals. What gives?
 
Assume the concern is liver damage? Lots of 40 plus lifters I know use orals but in short cycles.
Anavar is reputed to be one of the safest. Turinabol as well but anavar seems to be more popular.

I’m sure someone with more experience will give another opinion.
 
Anavar gave my kidneys grieve, but I am truly an old fart whose kidneys have minds of their own.
 
Not sure what qualifies as an old fart - the lady tells me I’m middle aged and I keep ignoring her. My BP and cholesterol numbers have always been good. BP did go up for one doctor visit but the new nurse was amazing - she went back to school, bitch. She could be a model. I thought it was all the soya sauce I was eating with rice/fish/chicken but it must have been the nurse.
Next visit - nice older nurse....BP back to normal.
I didn’t know orals had more of an affect on lipids and BP than injectables.
 
Bagua said:
Anavar gave my kidneys grieve, but I am truly an old fart whose kidneys have minds of their own.
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Did you have lower back pain? Protein or blood show up on your urine? What was the symptom that indicated an issue?
Thanks
 
Goldenrod said:
Not sure what qualifies as an old fart - the lady tells me I’m middle aged and I keep ignoring her. My BP and cholesterol numbers have always been good. BP did go up for one doctor visit but the new nurse was amazing - she went back to school, bitch. She could be a model. I thought it was all the soya sauce I was eating with rice/fish/chicken but it must have been the nurse.
Next visit - nice older nurse....BP back to normal.
I didn’t know orals had more of an affect on lipids and BP than injectables.
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Anavar is notorious for trashing lipids.
 
Goldenrod said:
Did you have lower back pain? Protein or blood show up on your urine? What was the symptom that indicated an issue?
Thanks
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High BP led to me getting my kidney function checked and it showed my eGFR had crashed twenty or so points. Creatinine spiked as well. No pain nor hematuria.
 
I have yet to find an oral that doesn't raise my blood pressure at least 10-15 points. Anavar, tbol, dbol, and even provirion. Im only 35
 
Lately every oral I try gives me stomach issues and kills my appetite. After two weeks I usually have to stop and it’s gotten much worse as I approach my mid 40’s
 
Anyone ever use primo tabs? Isn't it supposed to be easier on the liver. Since it isn't c17 alka alky. Could be useful for the "ancients".
 
maybe some sarms? There not going to do a hell of a lot but its better then nothing
 
Personally, I like proviron and DHT.
Both help me feel better and I get no sides.
Slight energy boost and libido increase.
I'm more into sarms for orals now.
Anavar kills my lower back with cramps
Dbol gives me bad gyno
Winstrol kills my joints...

I hear tbol isn't too bad on the system... but I have not personally tried it.
 
OntarioMuscle101 said:
Anyone ever use primo tabs? Isn't it supposed to be easier on the liver. Since it isn't c17 alka alky. Could be useful for the "ancients".[/QUOTE

Yep from Mexico they were 5mg each tab.

It the anabolic reference you need 25-50mg for female.
Male are double the dose.
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