Trans Athletes in Women’s Powerlifting

I'm against trans women in women's pro sports, 100%. I do find it weird how big of a deal it's become. I hear "it's being shoved down our throats" all the time. If it's estimated that .6% of the population is trans, and since we're not concerned about trans men in men's sports let's say .3% are a potential issue. How many of those .3% are into sports, let alone targeting pro-athlete status? I've heard about an MMA athlete, a swimmer, and a powerlifter. Maybe there's more but that hardly seems like like a wide-scale issue with millions of women's pro sporting events annually. Again, I'm against it, but I really never paid any attention to any of those sporting categories before, so why would I now? Do I feel for those woman who are getting shafted? Ya man, sucks for that handful of women that have to put up with that. Do I think there are more concerning issues people can get behind to champion? Probably. Outside of sports, did anyone know who was miss Portugal last year? Or who was Attitude Woman of the Year last year? Or for that matter, have they ever even heard of or read Attitude magazine before? Most of the news and publicity is coming from the side of the people who it infuriates. Is it possible they are shoving it down their own throats?

Not saying this to make anyone mad, I just don't know why people get so worked up about it if they truly don't care that people are trans. This won't become a widespread issue, just needs time to work itself out. The best solution is if women don't enter competitions where transwomen are allowed. In the defence of the organizers, they probably are terrified of how to handle the situation.
 
aGuyFromWinnipeg said:
I'm against trans women in women's pro sports, 100%. I do find it weird how big of a deal it's become. I hear "it's being shoved down our throats" all the time. If it's estimated that .6% of the population is trans, and since we're not concerned about trans men in men's sports let's say .3% are a potential issue. How many of those .3% are into sports, let alone targeting pro-athlete status? I've heard about an MMA athlete, a swimmer, and a powerlifter. Maybe there's more but that hardly seems like like a wide-scale issue with millions of women's pro sporting events annually. Again, I'm against it, but I really never paid any attention to any of those sporting categories before, so why would I now? Do I feel for those woman who are getting shafted? Ya man, sucks for that handful of women that have to put up with that. Do I think there are more concerning issues people can get behind to champion? Probably. Outside of sports, did anyone know who was miss Portugal last year? Or who was Attitude Woman of the Year last year? Or for that matter, have they ever even heard of or read Attitude magazine before? Most of the news and publicity is coming from the side of the people who it infuriates. Is it possible they are shoving it down their own throats?

Not saying this to make anyone mad, I just don't know why people get so worked up about it if they truly don't care that people are trans. This won't become a widespread issue, just needs time to work itself out. The best solution is if women don't enter competitions where transwomen are allowed. In the defence of the organizers, they probably are terrified of how to handle the situation.
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I agree, the attention from the opposers is only creating more it. But humans be humans. The war on drugs made more drugs, the war on trans created more trans people. The coming war on pedophilia will create more demand for it and they're counting on it.

In otherwords these fucks wouldn't have half the attention they have if the people that dont like it just simply ignored them.
 
aGuyFromWinnipeg said:
I'm against trans women in women's pro sports, 100%. I do find it weird how big of a deal it's become. I hear "it's being shoved down our throats" all the time. If it's estimated that .6% of the population is trans, and since we're not concerned about trans men in men's sports let's say .3% are a potential issue. How many of those .3% are into sports, let alone targeting pro-athlete status? I've heard about an MMA athlete, a swimmer, and a powerlifter. Maybe there's more but that hardly seems like like a wide-scale issue with millions of women's pro sporting events annually. Again, I'm against it, but I really never paid any attention to any of those sporting categories before, so why would I now? Do I feel for those woman who are getting shafted? Ya man, sucks for that handful of women that have to put up with that. Do I think there are more concerning issues people can get behind to champion? Probably. Outside of sports, did anyone know who was miss Portugal last year? Or who was Attitude Woman of the Year last year? Or for that matter, have they ever even heard of or read Attitude magazine before? Most of the news and publicity is coming from the side of the people who it infuriates. Is it possible they are shoving it down their own throats?

Not saying this to make anyone mad, I just don't know why people get so worked up about it if they truly don't care that people are trans. This won't become a widespread issue, just needs time to work itself out. The best solution is if women don't enter competitions where transwomen are allowed. In the defence of the organizers, they probably are terrified of how to handle the situation.
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Q why it's such a big deal?

Imagine you are a family member , especially parent or a daughter in a family where sport is a super important part of your lives. From maybe 5 years old to some sort of mature age. Development, teaching moments, confidence building, dealing with life, goal setting etc. The all free-hour consuming grind from the early morning before school or workday practice until you nearly full asleep in the last hot shower of the day. All eyes on the prize whatever that shows itself to be.

Your athlete needs to take one more step to realize a high and realistic lifetime goal, that may set the tone for the rest of their years.
Make a rep team, win mvp, get a scholarship etc.

Then somebody who you think shouldn't even be aloud to be in the competition shows up and fucks it up for her. Or hurts her. And remember It fucks it up for a long way down the line, not just for the person in 2nd place. Somebody who has never had a podium before gets knocked off, somebody doesn't get to go to finals or provincials cause they didn't finish in the top ten.

Cheers
 
aGuyFromWinnipeg said:
I'm against trans women in women's pro sports, 100%. I do find it weird how big of a deal it's become. I hear "it's being shoved down our throats" all the time. If it's estimated that .6% of the population is trans, and since we're not concerned about trans men in men's sports let's say .3% are a potential issue. How many of those .3% are into sports, let alone targeting pro-athlete status? I've heard about an MMA athlete, a swimmer, and a powerlifter. Maybe there's more but that hardly seems like like a wide-scale issue with millions of women's pro sporting events annually. Again, I'm against it, but I really never paid any attention to any of those sporting categories before, so why would I now? Do I feel for those woman who are getting shafted? Ya man, sucks for that handful of women that have to put up with that. Do I think there are more concerning issues people can get behind to champion? Probably. Outside of sports, did anyone know who was miss Portugal last year? Or who was Attitude Woman of the Year last year? Or for that matter, have they ever even heard of or read Attitude magazine before? Most of the news and publicity is coming from the side of the people who it infuriates. Is it possible they are shoving it down their own throats?

Not saying this to make anyone mad, I just don't know why people get so worked up about it if they truly don't care that people are trans. This won't become a widespread issue, just needs time to work itself out. The best solution is if women don't enter competitions where transwomen are allowed. In the defence of the organizers, they probably are terrified of how to handle the situation.
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I draw the line when it comes to combat sports. Could you sit and watch your spouse fight a "man" in the ring with possible permanent damage?

I agree it all gets way too much coverage, but I think it will probably just get worse.

At least with some other sports it would only be egos and records being broken. But at that point why have weight classes or rules for that matter..lol
 
gondar1 said:
Q why it's such a big deal?

Imagine you are a family member , especially parent or a daughter in a family where sport is a super important part of your lives. From maybe 5 years old to some sort of mature age. Development, teaching moments, confidence building, dealing with life, goal setting etc. The all free-hour consuming grind from the early morning before school or workday practice until you nearly full asleep in the last hot shower of the day. All eyes on the prize whatever that shows itself to be.

Your athlete needs to take one more step to realize a high and realistic lifetime goal, that may set the tone for the rest of their years.
Make a rep team, win mvp, get a scholarship etc.

Then somebody who you think shouldn't even be aloud to be in the competition shows up and fucks it up for her. Or hurts her. And remember It fucks it up for a long way down the line, not just for the person in 2nd place. Somebody who has never had a podium before gets knocked off, somebody doesn't get to go to finals or provincials cause they didn't finish in the top ten.

Cheers
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Doesn't this happen all the time with PEDs? Isn't that a bigger problem with cheating in sports and robbing more people of their dreams? I'm not saying its "no big deal" in the sense that I don't care, but do you really think that the reason it gets so much attention is what you describe? Or is there something deeper there?
 
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Cheapshot said:
I draw the line when it comes to combat sports. Could you sit and watch your spouse fight a "man" in the ring with possible permanent damage?

I agree it all gets way too much coverage, but I think it will probably just get worse.

At least with some other sports it would only be egos and records being broken. But at that point why have weight classes or rules for that matter..lol
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Why indeed. We don’t need any rules or restrictions. Let’s just do whatever we want because we feel like it.

SNAFU
 
Cheapshot said:
I draw the line when it comes to combat sports. Could you sit and watch your spouse fight a "man" in the ring with possible permanent damage?

I agree it all gets way too much coverage, but I think it will probably just get worse.

At least with some other sports it would only be egos and records being broken. But at that point why have weight classes or rules for that matter..lol
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oh for sure... they need to stop that immediately. and probably the easiest to stop if people refuse to fight that person.

edit... knowing fighter mentality I bet there are a lot of women who will want to fight a trans woman as a challenge. To my knowledge, it hasn't happened at a very high level yet, I can't imagine it being that hard to tell the organizers no. But perhaps you feel the pressure to further your career.
 
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aGuyFromWinnipeg said:
I'm against trans women in women's pro sports, 100%. I do find it weird how big of a deal it's become. I hear "it's being shoved down our throats" all the time. If it's estimated that .6% of the population is trans, and since we're not concerned about trans men in men's sports let's say .3% are a potential issue. How many of those .3% are into sports, let alone targeting pro-athlete status? I've heard about an MMA athlete, a swimmer, and a powerlifter. Maybe there's more but that hardly seems like like a wide-scale issue with millions of women's pro sporting events annually. Again, I'm against it, but I really never paid any attention to any of those sporting categories before, so why would I now? Do I feel for those woman who are getting shafted? Ya man, sucks for that handful of women that have to put up with that. Do I think there are more concerning issues people can get behind to champion? Probably. Outside of sports, did anyone know who was miss Portugal last year? Or who was Attitude Woman of the Year last year? Or for that matter, have they ever even heard of or read Attitude magazine before? Most of the news and publicity is coming from the side of the people who it infuriates. Is it possible they are shoving it down their own throats?

Not saying this to make anyone mad, I just don't know why people get so worked up about it if they truly don't care that people are trans. This won't become a widespread issue, just needs time to work itself out. The best solution is if women don't enter competitions where transwomen are allowed. In the defence of the organizers, they probably are terrified of how to handle the situation.
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I agree with the organizers, they are caught in a tough position and until people speak up enough to drown out the other side, then they will be scared of backlash form the other side.

Yeah I I knew they had a trans man win Miss Phillipines.

Not really sure why we are effecting the mass majority (woman are 50%) over a population of .3%?
 
aGuyFromWinnipeg said:
Doesn't this happen all the time with PEDs? Isn't that a bigger problem with cheating in sports and robbing more people of their dreams? I'm not saying its "no big deal" in the sense that I don't care, but do you really think that the reason it gets so much attention is what you describe? Or is there something deeper there?
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Thing is that's not a good example. Everyone can use peds and even the playing field. Not matter how much gear a female takes,she will never have a mans structure, or otherwise Mrs. Olympia could have competed with men.

But I do understand your point.
 
So you decide where to draw the line and when it’s too much ( combat sport ) but when others have a line we want to draw and say it is too much
We are bitter Ring wing anti trans lol cuz we don’t want some dude sprinting against girls or swimming or fucking deadlifting
 
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lol... so you're going back to 2014 to prove a point. Kinda proves my point doesn't it? and really fighting is 100% on the athlete. just say no thanks. This fight was set up for ratings, not for equal opportunity. Shame on the promoters for putting this together.
 
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Thing is that's not a good example. Everyone can use peds and even the playing field. Not matter how much gear a female takes,she will never have a mans structure, or otherwise Mrs. Olympia could have competed with men.

But I do understand your point.
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Ya, agree. I supposed I'm comparing unfair advantages to unfair advantages, but I see what you're saying. I suppose my point is more that when someone gets caught using peds and having that unfair advantage, it doesn't get the headlines on every right-wing news and social media outlet. Then recycled for the next 10 years. For the amount it's happening, it sure gets talked about a lot. I would be willing to bet the average trans person is wishing trans people would stay the fuck. out of sports. Some people love being the heel though, which I imagine is in part why they do it.
 
Anyways, I'm out! don't really want to stir shit up too much, I get I'm the minority. Just feel like one side is making this into a talking point that's on a continuous loop. I don't think it's healthy to put hate onto a minority when an extreme minority of that minority is being dicks (can I still call them dicks?). I do hope/feel that the right thing will prevail in the end.
 
aGuyFromWinnipeg said:
Anyways, I'm out! don't really want to stir shit up too much, I get I'm the minority. Just feel like one side is making this into a talking point that's on a continuous loop. I don't think it's healthy to put hate onto a minority when an extreme minority of that minority is being dicks (can I still call them dicks?). I do hope/feel that the right thing will prevail in the end.
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I dont think anyone here is expressing their hate for trans people. We're saying a line needs to been drawn and these people need to be told no for once in their life. It is in fact posing a threat to the career of many hard working female athletes out there. All to fulfill one person's delusions? I'm all for trans people being trans but for fuck sakes get a grip and enough with the semantics.
 
aGuyFromWinnipeg said:
Doesn't this happen all the time with PEDs? Isn't that a bigger problem with cheating in sports and robbing more people of their dreams? I'm not saying its "no big deal" in the sense that I don't care, but do you really think that the reason it gets so much attention is what you describe? Or is there something deeper there?
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The difference with PEDs is if caught the cheater is disqualified. A dick on a person claiming to be a woman doesn't get in the way though.
 
Sorbate said:
I agree with the organizers, they are caught in a tough position and until people speak up enough to drown out the other side, then they will be scared of backlash form the other side.
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They are afraid of being sued. Trans women are legally woman so any organization who excludes a specific group could be in trouble, they're also afraid of negative publicity.

Speaking out against their inclusion because "they are men" or "they are not women" is not going to go over well socially anymore and now in some jurisdictions is considered hate speech. I'm not in favor of speech laws but society is moving this way unfortunately.
 
We'll just let the market decide. As access to credit goes away, so will all this bullshit and their liberal pipe dream with it. These morons have no idea the bubble they're in. Bud light their ass.

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