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Ya, it's tough to say when the appropriate age is to talk about this shit. My sister's good friend's kid is a boy who identifies as a girl. They knew when he was about 4/5 years old. He's around 9 now and always wants to wear girls clothing to school. I won't say that things are easy for him, but because there is so much awareness nowadays kids don't seem to care what he is. I can't imagine how a kid would have been treated back when I went to elementary or middle school if they had the balls (no pun intended) to publically come out.

I don't know, it's very foreign to us older folk for schools to be teaching this shit, but maybe it does more good than harm? My youngest is 7, he went through it (the education) and my oldest actually hangs out with a kid at school from time to time that switched teams. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've never spoken to my kids about this stuff, it's pretty normal to them. I suppose that's the point.

At what point do the...which facilities to use questions start?

"Bla bla I don't want my boy with..."
"Bla bla I can't have my girl with...."

When you read about how terrible it can be it starts at some point. There are TONS of fathers who think a gay kid will maybe make their kid gay or sit there checking him out in the change room. It's awful.
 
You know what doesn’t help them to be gender confused, the education system. They started to explain this to my grandson in grade 2. Why?

All that happened is he got confused. Thank god we sit in the hot tub and talk almost every night most of the year. He then asks me if he’s gay. I’m like why does he think so, then he told me at school they said if you like a boy you are gay. He likes his friend so he must be gay.
I asked him if he liked his friend how he likes girls, he said no, I said you are not gay. Gay people like boys in the same way you like girls.
Then he asked my why do gay people like boys? I just said, I don’t know, but there is nothing wrong with it.

He also asked me if his gender was male, or can he be another gender. I asked him if a Trex had a penis is it a male? He said yes. Then I asked him if he had a penis? He said yes. Then I said what is your gender? He said male.
I said there you go, now you know.

You know it’s good to talk about, but 7/8 years old is a bit young IMO. They don’t have any concept of what is going on. Imagine if we didn’t talk like we do, he might have been confused, asked the teacher and got even more confused.

Reminded me of when they taught about feelings, he would come home asking me why the teacher asks him every day if he’s sad, and it’s ok to be sad. And he could talk to someone if he is having problems. They explained depression to a 6 year old, like wtf?

Those are the ages when it all hits Sorby. I have worked with tons of kids in the system, from broken homes, abused and from rather "normal" homes and all the kids with gender dysphoria report it as something they remember from their earliest memories. Very similar to folks that are gay. It's a tough call but it's reality. It needs to be a school/family partnership, but unfortunately, not all families are on the ball, nor as supportive as you are. The scary thing is I have worked with kids as young as four that were living with major depression. Way out of my counselling skills. Kids at 8 years old have committed suicide in Ontario. That never makes the media because of the age.
 
Those are the ages when it all hits Sorby. I have worked with toms of kids in the system, from broken homes, abused and from rather "normal" homes and all the kids with gender dysphoria report it as something they remember from their earliest memories. Very similar to folks that are gay. It's a tough call but it's reality. It needs to be a school/family partnership, but unfortunately not all families are on the ball, nor as supportive as you are. The scary thing is I have worked with kids as young as four that were living with major depression. Way out of my counselling skills. Kids at 8 years old have committed suicide in Ontario. That never makes the media because of the age.
They didn’t tell us anything. I was suprized at this.
I know it saves, but man it creates confusion. Thankfully my grandson talks to me so he didn’t stay confused and start to think something is wrong with him, because he was very concerned about that. He was greatly conserved he wasn’t like the normal kids, whatever normal is now.

The unfortunate part is people without complete training is teaching this.
I personally still think it’s too early. But since this is not my area of expertise, what the hell do I know, lol.
 
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They didn’t tell us anything. I was suprized at this.
I know it saves, but man it creates confusion. Thankfully my grandson talks to me so he didn’t stay confused and start to think something is wrong with him, because he was very concerned about that. He was greatly conserved he wasn’t like the normal kids, whatever normal is now.

The unfortunate part is people without complete training is teaching this.
I personally still think it’s too early. But since this is not my area of expertise, what the hell do I know, lol.

It should be something that is broached with both the education system and the family but a lot of families don't really care about what is going on in their kid's lives.
 
Ya, it's tough to say when the appropriate age is to talk about this shit. My sister's good friend's kid is a boy who identifies as a girl. They knew when he was about 4/5 years old. He's around 9 now and always wants to wear girls clothing to school. I won't say that things are easy for him, but because there is so much awareness nowadays kids don't seem to care what he is. I can't imagine how a kid would have been treated back when I went to elementary or middle school if they had the balls (no pun intended) to publically come out.

I don't know, it's very foreign to us older folk for schools to be teaching this shit, but maybe it does more good than harm? My youngest is 7, he went through it (the education) and my oldest actually hangs out with a kid at school from time to time that switched teams. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I've never spoken to my kids about this stuff, it's pretty normal to them. I suppose that's the point.
Thing is I believe they overemphasize it.
I had a best friend when I was 10 that liked to dress like a girl sometimes. He said he was doing it for fun, no one cared, he would do it jokingly and we’d all get a laugh.
We used to do business like things to make money, one was a skit where we dressed as girls telling jokes.
We dud magic shows, I drew tattoos on the local kids for a dime, he’d sell the tats, damn we got shut down in 2 days with that one. I guess I shouldn’t have used permanent markers, lol.
I found out years later he was gay. Never even thought about it. But I guess he did keep trying to marry his sister and me off and wanted to plan the pretend wedding, lol.
 
It should be something that is broached with both the education system and the family but a lot of families don't really care about what is going on in their kid's lives.
We do. I don’t want what happened to my stepson to happen to my grandson.
I do find that a lot of the teachers don’t want to put in the extra effort anymore either.
3 different teachers for 3 years we have asked if my grandson doesn’t finish his work in class to send it home.
We tell them he needs to learn that if he doesn’t do it in school he has to do it during his fun times, teaches him responsibility.

My wife would grab it, but he was in portables and the teachers take turns watching the kids outside so they can take turns going home early. Can’t get into the portable. My wife got tired of begging the janitor, lol.
 
Thing is I believe they overemphasize it.
I had a best friend when I was 10 that liked to dress like a girl sometimes. He said he was doing it for fun, no one cared, he would do it jokingly and we’d all get a laugh.
We used to do business like things to make money, one was a skit where we dressed as girls telling jokes.
We dud magic shows, I drew tattoos on the local kids for a dime, he’d sell the tats, damn we got shut down in 2 days with that one. I guess I shouldn’t have used permanent markers, lol.
I found out years later he was gay. Never even thought about it. But I guess he did keep trying to marry his sister and me off and wanted to plan the pretend wedding, lol.


I suppose like anything, some do it well and others don't.
 
Guilty. I've never used the ignore button on any forum because I don't understand how it will effect the flow of conversation but I think I'm gonna risk that at least for a test drive ...
Haha, same here! I had the troll on ignore but then I couldn't see some of the hilarious posts directed to said troll....I was curious of course so I had to "unignore the troll" and then just made a point to not read the garbage the troll posts.
 
It should be something that is broached with both the education system and the family but a lot of families don't really care about what is going on in their kid's lives.
Such a sad reality....I couldn't fathom the thought of not caring about my children's lives or other children's lives either for that matter. Children are so innocent and they just want have fun, be loved, and learn new things.
 
Haha, same here! I had the troll on ignore but then I couldn't see some of the hilarious posts directed to said troll....I was curious of course so I had to "unignore the troll" and then just made a point to not read the garbage the troll posts.

Yeah test drive over, I'm sure that's about as well as a system like that could work but it's a pain in the ass unfortunately. Only one other solution I can think of...
 
You know what doesn’t help them to be gender confused, the education system. They started to explain this to my grandson in grade 2. Why?

All that happened is he got confused. Thank god we sit in the hot tub and talk almost every night most of the year. He then asks me if he’s gay. I’m like why does he think so, then he told me at school they said if you like a boy you are gay. He likes his friend so he must be gay.
I asked him if he liked his friend how he likes girls, he said no, I said you are not gay. Gay people like boys in the same way you like girls.
Then he asked my why do gay people like boys? I just said, I don’t know, but there is nothing wrong with it.

He also asked me if his gender was male, or can he be another gender. I asked him if a Trex had a penis is it a male? He said yes. Then I asked him if he had a penis? He said yes. Then I said what is your gender? He said male.
I said there you go, now you know.

You know it’s good to talk about, but 7/8 years old is a bit young IMO. They don’t have any concept of what is going on. Imagine if we didn’t talk like we do, he might have been confused, asked the teacher and got even more confused.

Reminded me of when they taught about feelings, he would come home asking me why the teacher asks him every day if he’s sad, and it’s ok to be sad. And he could talk to someone if he is having problems. They explained depression to a 6 year old, like wtf?
hate to say it, but the education system fails to tell the whole story that if an 18 year old boy likes 8 year old boys that's not an issue of being gay. there's more to the story than kids are told. But, it'd also be nice to see teachers getting criminal record checks every year before school starts.
 
hate to say it, but the education system fails to tell the whole story that if an 18 year old boy likes 8 year old boys that's not an issue of being gay. there's more to the story than kids are told. But, it'd also be nice to see teachers getting criminal record checks every year before school starts.
Believe that this would not be enough.We are dancing around what is happening here.
Anybody remember the charges brought against the man responsible for preparing the early sex ed curriculum of the Wynn gov?
 
Believe that this would not be enough.We are dancing around what is happening here.
Anybody remember the charges brought against the man responsible for preparing the early sex ed curriculum of the Wynn gov?
i never heard of him
 
hate to say it, but the education system fails to tell the whole story that if an 18 year old boy likes 8 year old boys that's not an issue of being gay. there's more to the story than kids are told. But, it'd also be nice to see teachers getting criminal record checks every year before school starts.


Pretty sure they discuss pedophilia and inappropriate behaviour jin this manor at schools. It has nothing to do with being gay though. Maybe I'm miss interpreting what you're saying?
 
Sex between two men is not a concern of mine.
Believe Levin was the name.
A pedophile agenda.
Believe he was convicted of producing or was it distributing child porn.
Catholic had or still has the same problem.
 
hate to say it, but the education system fails to tell the whole story that if an 18 year old boy likes 8 year old boys that's not an issue of being gay. there's more to the story than kids are told. But, it'd also be nice to see teachers getting criminal record checks every year before school starts.
Yeah, but if that happens its a very small minority.
We cannot protect everyone from everything. It is impossible, unless we want to give up all our freedoms, then we just live to exist.
 
Believe that this would not be enough.We are dancing around what is happening here.
Anybody remember the charges brought against the man responsible for preparing the early sex ed curriculum of the Wynn gov?
Yeah, god what the hell was wrong with Whynn. He is in jail right now actually.
 
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