Planning first cycle

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Fenix03

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Hey all. New here. New to AAS' as well.

I'm planning my first cycle, just thought I'd share a bit.

I'm 30, 5'11, 210lbs. Body fat 15%.

I've been up to 245lbs natural and at that point I was at my max genetic potential I believe. That was a few years ago. I purchased some gear from a "Newport rep" my good friend sent to me but he ended up taking my money and running which really bothered me, and more so because my good friend was in on it. Betrayal isn't fun.

Anyway, long story short, I've hit my genetic potential numerous times and to be blunt I know what is involved to get back there and it will take quite a while. I want to do something new and fresh here. I deserve a shortcut. I want to get back up to 245 again but quickly. Here's what the plan is once I find a trusted Canadian lab.

Test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks

Arimedex of the hop at .5mg eod (adjust if necessary)

Clomid 100/50/50/25/25 for PCT

Trying to keep it simple and bare bones here.

I want to do this for the experience. I've always wanted to experience a cycle. However, I want to do it right and not rush into it and end up cycling incorrectly or end up getting ripped off again so please criticize away.

Sorry for the essay guys. Feedback?
 
Fenix03 said:
Hey all. New here. New to AAS' as well.

I'm planning my first cycle, just thought I'd share a bit.

I'm 30, 5'11, 210lbs. Body fat 15%.

I've been up to 245lbs natural and at that point I was at my max genetic potential I believe. That was a few years ago. I purchased some gear from a "Newport rep" my good friend sent to me but he ended up taking my money and running which really bothered me, and more so because my good friend was in on it. Betrayal isn't fun.

Anyway, long story short, I've hit my genetic potential numerous times and to be blunt I know what is involved to get back there and it will take quite a while. I want to do something new and fresh here. I deserve a shortcut. I want to get back up to 245 again but quickly. Here's what the plan is once I find a trusted Canadian lab.

Test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks

Arimedex of the hop at .5mg eod (adjust if necessary)

Clomid 100/50/50/25/25 for PCT

Trying to keep it simple and bare bones here.

I want to do this for the experience. I've always wanted to experience a cycle. However, I want to do it right and not rush into it and end up cycling incorrectly or end up getting ripped off again so please criticize away.

Sorry for the essay guys. Feedback?
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Be careful. First cycle will never be your last, it gets addictive.

There are lots of good Canadian ugl with trustworthy people behind them.

You are in the right place to get the right advice and help along the way.

Don’t be in a rush.

Welcome.
 
It’s nice to see someone who plans on doing a basic first cycle for a change, not Tren, GH, peptides, T3, and a bunch of other compounds at pro-level doses.
 
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Hey guys, I feel pretty welcome here. I've been viewing a lot of different forums in the past few days and I dunno, this just feels right.

And yeah I understand that this is addictive, but I've decided I'm completely fine with that. I've been addicted to worse in the past.

The two labs I've kind of settled on in the last few days are Genetec and there's this other one that starts with a P that's got a lot of good reviews. I'm not in a big rush as I won't be starting a cycle till mid December at the earliest. Working 12 hour days and take transit.

More time to research. However I won't lie. Thinking about getting my feet wet is pretty damn exciting.

Look forward to chatting guys and thanks for the warm welcomes.
 
Genetec is a good bet :)

500 for 12 weeks is good. I wouldn't start arimidex from the start. But have it on hand.
Maybe get some HCG and nolva for PCT. Or try tapering off with prop.
 
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You mentioned in the other thread that you have "been on a long long break" and in this thread "I want to do it right and not rush into it". So if this was me what I would do is train naturally for a few months maybe get back to the 245lb. and then jump on a cycle. Long term you'd be way happier with the out come.
 
I've read that quite a bit through the years.

Wait until you reach your genetic limit.

How would I be happier with the outcome if I pushed myself BEYOND what I can do naturally only to run a PCT and shrink back towards my natural genetic limit?

I'm looking for a shortcut here basically to get to where I was before. I have no set in stone goals here, to compete or anything crazy.

I just want the experience of an injectable cycle under my belt. Simple goal :)

I want to know what it's like to grow more in 3 months than I could on my own in 2 years.

I've done this naturally since I was 19 on and off, and I'm just looking to add something to the bucket list here, if that makes sense.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll probably go with Genetec then.
 
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You wont shrink back down if you do your pct properly, personally for me I use mostly test I get gains and fatloss as long as I keep estrogen in check I usually blast and cruise . It just works for me
 
Cool, I will look into getting Nolva and HCG.

So you guys, personally what do you typically do when it comes to potential gyno?

If you don't run Arimedex off the bat, what kind of symptoms do you wait for before you take it?

Potential gyno freaks me out lol
 
Capemuscle said:
First sign of tenderness for me bro
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First sign of tenderness and then start at .5 and take that every other day and adjust when needed?

I've read quite a bit and yeah most people just go by feel.

I suppose that's what this forum is for too, I can always get everything to have on hand and quickly come here for advice if I get any symptoms.
 
K, I'll chime in here.

I'm 4 weeks in to my first cycle. I did lots and lots of research prior to jumping on (I actually had the gear for over 6 months before pulling the trigger).

500mg a week is plenty. Some even recommend going lower, you will see results at 350/400 a week also. That was my plan but then it was just easier to go full throttle at 500mg.

Regarding AI use; I looked into this extensively. Don't use it if you dont need to was the advice I got from everywhere. I haven't used any yet and haven't felt any high E2 sides. Should you run into high E2 Adex is pretty potent stuff and it won't take long to get E2 under control. Too much Adex and it's extremely easy to crush your E2 and you'll feel like garbage. The general consensus with AI use is start slow; if I feel the need to use an AI I'm going start at .25mg EOD.

Bloodwork is important... and to avoid the Canadian health records you need to use an online service. Do it. It's real important to know your baseline prior to taking any AAS. Also easier to find out if you need an AI or if not (I'm waiting for my E2 test to come back this week). Pre/week4/post bloods are the most recommended.

Regarding PCT: it's a fucking minefield out there when it comes to what to run. Lots of bro-science and not much hard stuff. My plan is to blast HCG at end of cycle in 2 weeks leading up to PCT for 10 days at 500ED or EOD. Then 2 weeks after last pin Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5. The huge dosing of Clomid isnt really recommended all that much anymore. For a simple test cycle a nolva only PCT can be effective but I figured may aswell cover all basis.

There are many people here with a lot more knowledge than me but figured I could chime in as I was in your position 4 weeks ago.
 
ABMonkey said:
I chose Adex as I was told that if you crash E2 it comes back a lot quicker than Aromasin. Maybe something to consider for a first cycle.
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Well asin is much more forgiving and it is helluva lot easier on the lipid profiles. Its a suicidal AI, it permanently disables the enzyme by destroying it. It is also not liver toxic. Asin is a type 1 inhibitor, meaning that once it binds to the aromatize enzyme it doesnt let go and renders it inactive. Adex is a type 2 and although it binds to the same enzyme, when it is used up it unbinds re releasing that estrogen back into its active state. I think this is why you've heard adex is easier to come back from a crash. But for me i found that when on adex i crashed before and was hard to get back. With asin i found that every few days i took say 12.5mg i was solid. Adex was harder to dose for myself going by feel. Like i said to each their own on this matter. They are both solid choices and asin is the newer generation, but yeah the choice is ultimately yours to make. But try them both out and see
 
Great guys thanks a lot I will take all this into consideration. AB Monkey, how is your first cycle going so far? Guessing you're on Test E? I hear it usually takes till week five before you notice anything.
 
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