My Cycle on: Ostarine, Rad 140, Proviron + Clomid, Test, Arimidex, Viagra, Cialis, & Paroxetine review

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SEX: MALE
AGE:44
HEIGHT: 6'
WEIGHT:199.9lbs (fat guy)
DIET: Mostly plant-based / vegetarian.
GOAL: Lose fat, gain muscle (good dad beach bod)


OK, first post so go easy on me. The main purpose of this post is to outline my experience on the 2 mentioned SARMS and Proviron. I thought as an added bonus I would give a quick outline of some other stuff I ordered for fun. I had done a lot of reading about TRT and Sarms and really wanted to give it a try. The problem was I didn't have a source. From flipping through forums, I did come across PG anabolics. While I was at it, throw in some Paroxetine for fun. (Paroxetine is sold as an antidepressant, with side effects of helping people with premature ejaculation)

Here we go:

Syn Pharmacy Viagra: very real, very potent. To be honest I feel it was much stronger than the legitimate dose I've tried in the past.
Syn Pharmacy Cialis: very real as well. I much prefer Cialis over Viagra as you really don't feel anything while on it, for me it just works.
Auro Paroxetine: As an antidepressant, I can't really comment. For premature ejaculation... well, I literally can't ejaculate while taking this. Further research on the drug and its side effects of curring premature ejaculation showed that all case studies were men who would ejaculate in 30-45 seconds with improved results of up to 2 minutes. This made my "premature" 10-15 minutes seem like a marathon and the bottle is now collecting dust in my basement.

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Proviron. I started out very light, at only 25mg per day, but gradually worked my way up to 75mg per day at one point. I settled in at 50mg per day for the majority of the cycle. I ended up trying 2 brands of Proviron, I reviewed both.

Syn Pharmacy Proviron: I loved it. I started this journey a fat out of shape blob. I'm about 6' tall and was close to 200lbs. I started at the gym at the same time I started the cycle of Proviron and in about 2 weeks I lost almost 15lbs. Perhaps a lot of it was water, but I could immediately feel and see a difference. My muscles felt harder and the weight loss although didn't continue, you could see I was swapping fat for muscle. I remained around 185 for the remainder of my supply of Syn version of Proviron. The "side effects" of increased libido and morning wood were definitely felt. When I was almost out I decided to switch brands to Pharma Tech Labs branded Proviron as it was almost 1/2 the price.

Pharma Tech Labs Proviron: A few days after I switched I didn't really feel like I was losing any more fat. At the time I wrote it off as my body just getting used to the Proviron in general. It wasn't until I ran out of Pharma Tech Labs Proviron and went back to Syn Pharma that I noticed they weren't created equal. When I switched back, the dose stayed the same and the morning after I switched back I woke up with the worst / best morning wood. Within a few days, I felt my libido climb way up as well. It seemed as though the effects of switching back were immediate. My general well being and mood seemed to improve as well, although this was minor and hard to pinpoint on the switching of manufactures. (note: I'm sure lots of their products are great, but for me, the Proviron seemed to be underdosed compared to the SYN version)

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Apotex Arimidex (pharmaceutical grade product): It is too hard to say if this product worked for me as I had no blood work done. The product looks very legitimate as far as packaging goes and I have no doubt it works.


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Finally, my experience with SARMS. As mentioned my goal is to be more cut than to bulk up. So my choices to start with were Ostarine and RAD-140. I also added in Proviron. To me, the best way to introduce and cyle off things is gradual, so that's what I did with this cycle.


WEEK 1
OSTARINE - 10mg / day

WEEK 2
OSTARINE - 20mg /day
RAD-140 - 10mg / day

WEEK 3
OSTARINE - 25mg / day
RAD-140 - 20mg /day
PROVIRON - 25mg / day

WEEK 4,5,6
OSTARINE - 25mg / day
RAD-140 - 25mg /day
PROVIRON - 50mg / day


WEEK 7
OSTARINE - 35mg / day
RAD-140 - 35mg /day
PROVIRON - 62.5mg / day

WEEK 8
OSTARINE - 10mg / day
RAD-140 - 10mg /day
PROVIRON - 25mg / day



Syn Pharmacy Ostarine: I definitely felt effects within the first week of consumption. The first thing I noticed was how hard I felt with little to no lifting (I had only been working out for 4 to 6 weeks previous to starting) There was a point I remember flexing at the gym after dips and I felt as though my muscles were going to pop off of my frame. As mentioned my time in the gym was limited, but I've been in and out of the gym for decades previous. (mostly out, longest run was about a year straight)

Syn Pharmacy RAD-140: By the end of my first week of RAD-140 I felt as though I could feel and see a difference. Perhaps it was just the RAD shedding water out of my system, perhaps it was a placebo effect. I can say by the end of the 2 weeks in my cycle I was harder than I ever have been. I know this is a dramatic statement, but the pumps at the gym were unlike anything I've felt and when I flexed things just felt different.

From here on out I will just break down overall feelings based on dose/week. To be clear, it's hard for me to say what drug was doing what.

WEEK 3: Body fat continues to drop off me, the weight stays the same. My total weights pushed at the gym increase.

WEEK 4,5,6: It was inside this period that I felt I surpassed personal bests. Amounts pushed at the gym/ body fat/muscle mass. The wife comments at one point that I look like a gorilla, possibly some water. As far as the dose goes, I feel decent but can definitely feel some side effects. Obviously not clear if it's the OSTARINE, or the RAD.

WEEK 7: Too much. This was definitely the breaking point as far as the dose goes. I think the sweet spot (for me) is somewhere in my Week 3 or 4,5,6 levels. At this point, I generally just don't feel well. Lethargic, headaches, not sleeping well, my poop is the consistency of peanut butter. I will definitely not go this high again.

WEEK 8: Winding down, I still felt like shit until the end of the week.

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PCT:
CLOMID 25mg
CARDARINE 20mg


Global Pharmacy Clomid: Feels legit, all the same, side effects most people claim from Clomid, I felt as well.

Syn Pharmacy Cardarine: I added this to aid in well being and energy levels. The previous time i've taken Clomid i didn't really like the way it made me feel. I read somewhere that this aided in energy levels at the gym. So far so good. I will continue this drug at a higher dose after I'm done with the Clomid.

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In closing:
The SARMS I tried were great. In just 8 weeks I look great, Better than I have at a younger age working harder without PEDs. My workout was pretty much identical (I've used an app that tracks things for me, I used the same workout I did 6 years ago) The only thing that I can think changed was diet. My diet today is not as carb-restricted as it was previously.

Thanks for reading, I'd be amazed if anyone got through this whole review! I hope I posted this in the correct spot, and I hope this helps someone out. Hit me up if you have any questions.

SEX: STILL MALE
AGE: STILL 44
HEIGHT: STILL 6'
WEIGHT:190lbs (muscular guy)
DIET: STILL Mostly plant-based / vegetarian.
GOAL: Not completed but I look great.
 
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Thanks for this break down, it sounds like I'm starting off in a bit of a similar place as you were, a little too much fat, (I'm at about 20% assuming my scale is accurate) not looking to get huge but to get lean and be in good shape instead of just skinny. And I have to admit the slowing down ejaculation thing would not be unwelcome!

I also have been hesitant to go over to the AAS (did I get the acronym right?) so nice to know there's a "training wheels" version to consider. Will def do some more reading here on the ones you mention. I've noticed from my mid 30s to 40s I'm having a harder time getting fit, and easier time putting on weight and inuries seem to last a bit longer than they used to when I'd just bounce back. Looking forward to seeing if that starts to shift as well. Thanks again!
 
OP, I would like for you to continue logging your experience with Cardarine. I've used another lab's GW50156 in the past and never got anything from it. I'm at the point where Cardio is becoming as important as strength, and anything I can do to increase cardiac output is a bonus.

And I have to admit the slowing down ejaculation thing would not be unwelcome!
Low dose Cialis will likely do more for that regard than any AAS (5mg). No judgement here either, but hitting AAS when you're around 20% BF with "the goal of shedding fat and not getting huge" isn't advised, unless you're looking for a TRT regimen. Diet, adherence to exercise and commitment is going to do a lot more for your goals than anything but the strongest androgens... And without a good understanding of ancillaries, those can be quite harmful in the long-run.
 
Low dose Cialis will likely do more for that regard than any AAS (5mg). No judgement here either, but hitting AAS when you're around 20% BF with "the goal of shedding fat and not getting huge" isn't advised, unless you're looking for a TRT regimen. Diet, adherence to exercise and commitment is going to do a lot more for your goals than anything but the strongest androgens... And without a good understanding of ancillaries, those can be quite harmful in the long-run.

I was referring to his use of Paroxetine (an SSRI) to that end.

Yeah I'm not in a hurry to dip my toe into the AAS end of the pool yet. I'm increasing my cardio and have tightened my diet along with my weight training and experimenting with things like SARMS and clen/T3 for the time being. Down the road after having gotten leaner I do want to pack my muscle on my frame, so will reconsider then. I have wondered if my test levels have dipped to the point where supplementing there will have benefits beyond strength and appearance gains but haven't yet gotten blood work to confirm either way. (I've been wondering if it's as easy as asking my doctor for a requisition to fo the lab or if he's going to try and discourage me from even opening that line of inquiry. But that's a post for another day.) Thanks for the input!
 
I would highly recommend everyone get their test levels checked. It is as easy as asking your Dr for the req. Just tell them you are concerned with the aging process and want to understand where you are at. If they try to push back, push harder. Mention common symptoms of low T. Even go so far as to say it’s causing issues with the wife’s happiness. They should write the req easy enough.
And if you’re young just say it is because you want to know for future reference.
 
I was referring to his use of Paroxetine (an SSRI) to that end.

Yeah I'm not in a hurry to dip my toe into the AAS end of the pool yet. I'm increasing my cardio and have tightened my diet along with my weight training and experimenting with things like SARMS and clen/T3 for the time being. Down the road after having gotten leaner I do want to pack my muscle on my frame, so will reconsider then. I have wondered if my test levels have dipped to the point where supplementing there will have benefits beyond strength and appearance gains but haven't yet gotten blood work to confirm either way. (I've been wondering if it's as easy as asking my doctor for a requisition to fo the lab or if he's going to try and discourage me from even opening that line of inquiry. But that's a post for another day.) Thanks for the input!
Honestly forget about SARMs. If you don't want to pin, and I hate recommending this but the results you would get from just running Anavar massively outweigh any of those you would get from SARMs.

& Anavar has been extensively researched...


Also consider Albuterol as opposed to Clen, tolerated much better. I'll post a link...
 
I would highly recommend everyone get their test levels checked. It is as easy as asking your Dr for the req. Just tell them you are concerned with the aging process and want to understand where you are at. If they try to push back, push harder. Mention common symptoms of low T. Even go so far as to say it’s causing issues with the wife’s happiness. They should write the req easy enough.
And if you’re young just say it is because you want to know for future reference.
Thanks for this. I'm 41, so I don't think it's out of the question that I could be below ideal levels. I've also wondered if I just have always been lower T in general than others. I was able to put on a fair bit of muscle when I worked really hard at it in my early 30s and was eating like crazy (but very disciplined) but it's never been my default setting. And being honest, I don't have a Mickey Mouse voice but I've never had a Barry White one either. I know that doesn't count for much compared to getting hard and fast numbers, and I live in Canada so cost isn't an issue. I'll take your advice into consideration and see how my doc responds.
 
Honestly forget about SARMs. If you don't want to pin, and I hate recommending this but the results you would get from just running Anavar massively outweigh any of those you would get from SARMs.

& Anavar has been extensively researched...


Also consider Albuterol as opposed to Clen, tolerated much better. I'll post a link...
Much appreciated. Yeah I don't know that I've seen any massive difference taking SARMS but I guess I got caught into the hype as well as the impression that they a "safer" alternative to steroids, no need for PCT, etc. Already from reading this thread my phobia of taking AAS has lessened I'm no longer convinced if I take a dose I'll get boobs, a prostate the size of a cantaloupe, and uncontrollable rage. Further to that point Anavar has risen to the top in my mind as something I would try if I were going to go the route. Obviously not going to pop it like it's vitamin D, without consideration for how it impacts me in the long term and things I need to consider like how long to take it, what dose, etc. I would say I'm not crazy about the idea of pinning, but again, that might change as I read more here. I may have just read one too many horror stories over the years. Thanks again, look forward to reading up more on it. Also I hadn't considered Albuterol before, but having read here about products that contain it (someone mentioned Helios) I'm wanting to try it as well.
 
Much appreciated. Yeah I don't know that I've seen any massive difference taking SARMS but I guess I got caught into the hype as well as the impression that they a "safer" alternative to steroids, no need for PCT, etc. Already from reading this thread my phobia of taking AAS has lessened I'm no longer convinced if I take a dose I'll get boobs, a prostate the size of a cantaloupe, and uncontrollable rage. Further to that point Anavar has risen to the top in my mind as something I would try if I were going to go the route. Obviously not going to pop it like it's vitamin D, without consideration for how it impacts me in the long term and things I need to consider like how long to take it, what dose, etc. I would say I'm not crazy about the idea of pinning, but again, that might change as I read more here. I may have just read one too many horror stories over the years. Thanks again, look forward to reading up more on it. Also I hadn't considered Albuterol before, but having read here about products that contain it (someone mentioned Helios) I'm wanting to try it as well.
Pinning is a piece of cake. Especially if you use small gauge needles. Literally don't feel it.

Yeah I mean I'd personally try albuterol first before going with helios. Yohimbine is a love/hate type thing and albu/yoh and caffeine might be a bit over powering all at once.
 
Pinning is a piece of cake. Especially if you use small gauge needles. Literally don't feel it.

Yeah I mean I'd personally try albuterol first before going with helios. Yohimbine is a love/hate type thing and albu/yoh and caffeine might be a bit over powering all at once.
I guess I'll need to see if there's any benefit to pinning over oral administration for my goals. Not that I'm scared of needles or anything, I guess it just seemed like something else that could go wrong and I associated those compounds with more serious and heavy duty options. I'm learning, but still have a ways to go!
When I was training hard a number of years back I used to take yohimbine because I'd read good data on it, I'd take in pre workout with a double espresso hoping for the extra benefit from the caffeine. Never had any issues, but I also wasn't throwing anything else in the mix so who knows. But I could certainly start out with it by itself before going whole hog. I think I sometimes get into the "more is better" type thinking, probably due to impatience. I'll play around with it slowly and see how it goes. Thx.
 
Not that I'm trying to encourage AAS use but honestly, you're much better off going with AAS than SARMs. AAS literally have years of research & human studies behind them.. SARMs don't.

If you've used it before then go ahead with Helios. My partner loves it, its very effective. Unfortunately Yohimbine is out for me, hate it. Lol.
 
I guess I'll need to see if there's any benefit to pinning over oral administration for my goals. Not that I'm scared of needles or anything, I guess it just seemed like something else that could go wrong and I associated those compounds with more serious and heavy duty options. I'm learning, but still have a ways to go!
When I was training hard a number of years back I used to take yohimbine because I'd read good data on it, I'd take in pre workout with a double espresso hoping for the extra benefit from the caffeine. Never had any issues, but I also wasn't throwing anything else in the mix so who knows. But I could certainly start out with it by itself before going whole hog. I think I sometimes get into the "more is better" type thinking, probably due to impatience. I'll play around with it slowly and see how it goes. Thx.
Not to further derail Guy's thread, but you should probably research oral only cycles (and why not to do them) before looking at just var. But for sure take the long route and get bloods done. Pursue scripted art if appropriate and then cycles later.
 
Honestly forget about SARMs. If you don't want to pin, and I hate recommending this but the results you would get from just running Anavar massively outweigh any of those you would get from SARMs.

& Anavar has been extensively researched...


Also consider Albuterol as opposed to Clen, tolerated much better. I'll post a link...


Respectfully disagree. I think for someone who is not going to pin, or wants to take baby steps into PEDs there is a big advantage to being able to switch things up from Anavar or Winstrol. I've had great success with Sarms. I don't disagree with your recommendation of Anavar, I just did a short cycle with it and saw great results from it. However, my body is a type that will react better if I don't dip back into it again next cycle. And to be able to add something like an S4 cycle will benefit me. I know there hasn't been a ton of studies on SARMS but I feel I can say they're safer than a good chunk of AAS.

To each their own, I understand that they're not for everyone.
 
OP, I would like for you to continue logging your experience with Cardarine. I've used another lab's GW50156 in the past and never got anything from it. I'm at the point where Cardio is becoming as important as strength, and anything I can do to increase cardiac output is a bonus.


Low dose Cialis will likely do more for that regard than any AAS (5mg). No judgement here either, but hitting AAS when you're around 20% BF with "the goal of shedding fat and not getting huge" isn't advised unless you're looking for a TRT regimen. Diet, adherence to exercise and commitment is going to do a lot more for your goals than anything but the strongest androgens... And without a good understanding of ancillaries, those can be quite harmful in the long-run.


I've used both Syn and Pareto branded Cardarine. I have no doubt the legitimacy of these brands, however, I don't notice a huge increase in my endurance while on Cardarine. While researching this, I found just as many people who said it didn't do anything for them as people who said how well it worked for them. Perhaps it's just one of those things that don't work for everyone.

With this said, I've always been on something else while trying cardarine, perhaps one day I'll try it on its own.
 
Respectfully disagree. I think for someone who is not going to pin, or wants to take baby steps into PEDs there is a big advantage to being able to switch things up from Anavar or Winstrol. I've had great success with Sarms. I don't disagree with your recommendation of Anavar, I just did a short cycle with it and saw great results from it. However, my body is a type that will react better if I don't dip back into it again next cycle. And to be able to add something like an S4 cycle will benefit me. I know there hasn't been a ton of studies on SARMS but I feel I can say they're safer than a good chunk of AAS.

To each their own, I understand that they're not for everyone.
Just to add, I am speaking from experience...

I first ran LGD4033, then Ostarine. Eventually moved onto var for 8 weeks but then pulling the pin on a test cycle.
 
Man people are putting a lot of shit with unknown long term effects in themselves to avoid a small injection a couple times a week. I’ll never agree or advise this route to anyone. You did it and you enjoyed it, that’s great but definitely not something I think anyone should be recommending to people starting out in this.
 
Sarms have been around since the mid-90s, some longer. I realize this isn't nearly as far back as some steroids, but there have been a good amount of tests done on humans. How long term are we going here? 50 years? 60? Realize this site is all about putting shit in your body and not really knowing 100% what is going to happen.

Also, I don't recommend anyone does any of this stuff, none of it is "good" for you. I'm only here posting my experience.
 
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