Massive Sciatica-like Pain

gondar1 said:
That's funny I totally forget that he said that right in this thread. A month is a long time for me to remember some things!

I was responding to what I'm seeing as a blanket statement "Not supposed to see Chrios for herniated discs actually. " I can see that Peter knows his stuff and I always enjoy and learn from such posts from him, in that post he was referring to tricks97's particular, very well described issue. I'd hedge a bet that he would agree that each individual case is different. I could provide a nice handful of folks who will tell you that a Chiro was very helpful in overcoming herniated disc issues.
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Peter Akara said:
Chiro's have their role, there's no doubt about that. I know patients who swear by their Chiro's and will go religiously for back troubles.

With that said, I've also personally seen back pain with red-flag features that were made worse by Chiro. And like any professional, not all Chiro's are equal.

Bottom-line, if you have run-of-the-mill low back pain and feel your Chiro does the trick, by all means keep going! If your presenting with a hx of multiple months of progressive back pain consistent with disc herniation that is getting worse (+/- any neurological deficits), I would recommend NOT visiting a chiropractor. Especially a chiropractor I don't know. In this situation I would refer to a spine surgeon and arrange an MRI for preoperative planning.
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Lol! I know that all that I know, is nothing at all. There is that old adage about a little bit of knowledge? I get confused when it's not meds. Argh.
 
gondar1 said:
Oh there is nothing to settle, I'd recommend that you follow all the advice he gave you. I explained the intent of my reply above.

PS - I hope others who post in this section will take notice of how well written and informative your OP was, makes it so much easier for those with the knowledge to help to do so.
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Thanks man, nothing worse than trying to help someone but 40% of basic info is missing
 
Update:
So apparently next step is going to some spine clinic and we do the whole assessment thing all over again.
This is not a surgeon but a precursor to seeing a surgeon.
According to specialist they'll probably have me see one of their own physios or something etc.
So far they've been quick to take money but don't have an appointment even set yet. Been just waiting.
Sounds like time between now and surgery will still be quite long.
 
Get an inversion table, best 125 bucks you'll ever spend. 25-60 degrees for like 10 minutes a day. Look into piriformis syndrome. Strengthen your core. Planks, vacuums etc. Try to lessen the aggravating factors, and be more conscious of your movements.

Slowly work your spine to be able to do some lumber flexion. The idea to avoid it completely is nuts. It's naive to think you will never hyperextend your spine again
 
I have had sciatica down one legs for 18 years. Flares up an down. Sometimes driving is extremely painful. Then having to stand after sitting extremely painful.
Then I bought this book on amazon call Back Mechanic, by Stuart McGill. Someone actually posted a link of here to a few online copy somewhere. Use this book. DOn't just read it and go yeah, its shit because its too simple, just read it and use it.
I still have minor hip tightness and irritation, but my sciatica is gone. The pain I have left is more than manageable.

Now I just need to get rid of the nerve pinch in my trap and life would be great, lol
 
Meeting with surgeon in November.

I am a cut and dry candidate for it.

They're just going to cut out that little bit that's pushing on the nerve, that's all. Leave the rest. 6 week recovery time, Back to work within 2 weeks.

I will look into this book thou.
 
Sorbate said:
Then I bought this book on amazon call Back Mechanic, by Stuart McGill. Someone actually posted a link of here to a few online copy somewhere. Use this book. DOn't just read it and go yeah, its shit because its too simple, just read it and use it.
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Ordered the book this morning
 
tricks79 said:
Ordered the book this morning
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You wont regret it. It is stupidly basic. Actually so simple that you will be like, fuck, I could have been pain free, or better just by doing what I know I'm supposed to do. I like the part where he states, "for some reason people like to keep doing the movements that give them pain" seems pretty stupid doesn't it, lol.
Problem is we have been taught everywhere to stretch thru our pain, increase range of motion. Where his style is to let the nerve calm down so your pain starts to reduce, then pain free increase you range of motion and movement as your body allows.
Now this may not permanently fix you, but it could make your pain management controllable. So you can function better every day.
Read the book and read into what he is saying. Its all in the big picture.
BTW my back is almost completely perfect. Now I had to change some movements at work and retrain my movement patterns (which I am still working on) but its fucking working.
 
Sorbate said:
You wont regret it. It is stupidly basic. Actually so simple that you will be like, fuck, I could have been pain free, or better just by doing what I know I'm supposed to do. I like the part where he states, "for some reason people like to keep doing the movements that give them pain" seems pretty stupid doesn't it, lol.
Problem is we have been taught everywhere to stretch thru our pain, increase range of motion. Where his style is to let the nerve calm down so your pain starts to reduce, then pain free increase you range of motion and movement as your body allows.
Now this may not permanently fix you, but it could make your pain management controllable. So you can function better every day.
Read the book and read into what he is saying. Its all in the big picture.
BTW my back is almost completely perfect. Now I had to change some movements at work and retrain my movement patterns (which I am still working on) but its fucking working.
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Do you do any of the big 3?
Squat bench deadlift?
 
Hey Team,

Just an update. Had my back surgery this week.

Recovery is quite painful, lot more than I expected.

Leading up to surgery I haven't really been able to lift at all. So I am at an all time small size right now lol. 100kg, lowest I've been in 5 years. Will probably drop into the 90s during recovery as there is little appetite on pain killers and almost 0 movement besides occasional walking.

Slowly will start easing my way back into gym by February. Probably be able to go hard by March. At which point I will start a comeback cycle + detailed log. I will include lots of useful info on coming back form a back injury, as I'm doing an absolute extensive amount of research and book reading, so I'm sure I'll have some useful summaries to post.

If anyone has input on a comeback cycle I would be interested. Right now looking at a tren/mast/test/anadrol combo. Don't worry I won't do anything until my body is ready, I'm not will go revert the recovery progress I've made.
 
tricks79 said:
Hey Team,

Just an update. Had my back surgery this week.

Recovery is quite painful, lot more than I expected.

Leading up to surgery I haven't really been able to lift at all. So I am at an all time small size right now lol. 100kg, lowest I've been in 5 years. Will probably drop into the 90s during recovery as there is little appetite on pain killers and almost 0 movement besides occasional walking.

Slowly will start easing my way back into gym by February. Probably be able to go hard by March. At which point I will start a comeback cycle + detailed log. I will include lots of useful info on coming back form a back injury, as I'm doing an absolute extensive amount of research and book reading, so I'm sure I'll have some useful summaries to post.

If anyone has input on a comeback cycle I would be interested. Right now looking at a tren/mast/test/anadrol combo. Don't worry I won't do anything until my body is ready, I'm not will go revert the recovery progress I've made.
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I would likely leave out any orals, and start with a test only cycle.
Anything that could cause lower back pumps in my head shouldnt be an option.
 
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