Healthy / injury free shoulders

Goldenrod

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Much like the knees for the lower body, the shoulders are always being discussed for injuries and impacting so many pressing/pulling and even arm exercises if in pain.
I had my share of shoulder injuries, but nothing serious (define serious - anything that requires surgery). Some kept me away from weights / some were just a little annoying.
I went to a physiotherapist and a neurological osteopath to learn a short routine before all upper body workouts. Curious what others do.
I was told much is due to too much strength/muscle in the front and muscle imbalance in the back - the muscles that naturally keep your shoulder's back and not hunched over. I blame a lot of the accidental hunching over from working in an office chair in front of a computer so I now concentrate on getting comfortable when typing, sitting, etc.
Almost everyone I talked to told me to incorporate gravity exercises lying on my stomach, and shoulders are pushed down and then shoulder blades squeezed together and held for 5 seconds. This is done 10 times in a row. Another exercise people are probably not familiar with is standing against a wall with your glutes, shoulders. and upper back/head touching the wall and your feet slightly out in front. First you tuck your chin down to the chest and arms are lifted up to just under shoulder height and you press as hard as your can pushing your lower back and shoulders into the wall and hold for 20 second - 3 sets.
Don't ask me why but this helps so many of my joints for a mobility exercise. Last I take a low weight set of DB's - maybe 10 lbs and sit with my back straight, arms by side holding the DB's. Lift the DB's to straight out to the side to the shoulder height, then immediately to the front like a front hold and then immediately straight armed up over your head. It doesn't end there, you do a sh. press and reverse what you just did. This is done until your shoulders are fatigued, low weight, and knock on wood it has helped with no shoulder pain. I also grab a band and keep my elbows by my side and if you can't, put a little ball under your arm against the body and make sure it doesn't fall and pull the band apart. Not meant to build muscle - this is a warm up, using little muscles that don't get used in a lot of heavier exercises.

That is what I do - might sound like a long time but in total mobility work before weights is 15 minutes and I do the entire body each time no matter what I am training albeit you don't have to do your upper body if doing legs unless you are concerned about a real sore shoulder and lifting 45 lb plates and getting into awkward positions. I just consider this maintenance like getting a massage / seeing a chiropractor each month.

I still find some shoulder exercises cause pressure and an uncomfortable feeling in shoulders. I can do any pressing exercise without pain, and face pulls with two ropes so you can take your hands back past your face and it works the back of the shoulders, upper back, all the muscles between your shoulder blades. I prefer it light and high rep to ensure perfect form. I incorporate upright rows and some shrugs in from time to time but my neck grows too much (genetics) so I do one every workout. I am yet to be able to do any amount of weight for shoulder lateral raises which many consider one if not the best for wide shoulders. I would disagree with that statement - I believe pressing exercises of different variations are the best mass buildings.

Comments / opinion / suggestions for healthy shoulders as I suspect everyone who has lifted years to decades has had shoulder issues.

Cheers,
GR
 
I do an exercise that I find great at shoulder mobility. Never had shoulder issues but seems to be a big problem for most people in the martial arts world.

Lie on a decline bench and with very light dumbells I use 8 or 10 lbs. Drive your shoulders down and do a fly with hands at 45s. Take this deep and get a good stretch in the chest. Now slowly start bringing your hands over head.

The first time I did these lots of popping and crack. Now the movement has become much smoother and rarely have any pain in my shoulders.
 
I can't lift my left arm above my head since a mountain bike accident in my 20's. Lifting has made it considerably better in regard to range of motion and pain reduction.

Im just pushing lighter weight these days to go easy on my shoulders and lower back and knees. I don't need to make anything worse as a result of chasing a PB anymore
 
The biggest difference for my shoulder health was changing to sleeping on the floor with a Japanese futon mattress. Not even kidding, instant relief.

Something about sleeping in a regular bed really messes me up, with bodybuilding movements only compounding the issues. This is even while sleeping in the same positions I would on the floor.
 
The biggest difference for my shoulder health was changing to sleeping on the floor with a Japanese futon mattress. Not even kidding, instant relief.

Something about sleeping in a regular bed really messes me up, with bodybuilding movements only compounding the issues. This is even while sleeping in the same positions I would on the floor.
Until I got a new really good matress, I would sleep on the floor lots. Agree it was easier on the shoulders.
I think some beds you roll your shoulders forward when sleeping and that doesn’t help.
 
Until I got a new really good matress, I would sleep on the floor lots. Agree it was easier on the shoulders.
I think some beds you roll your shoulders forward when sleeping and that doesn’t help.
I got the firmest i could get. Originally it was good but over time I'd just sink into the bed. So far the floor is the best option but I have sleep exclusively on my back which can be hard to do all night.
 
I spent too much money and it is a pillow top with memory foam and coils. You sink in evenly. The damn thing is so comfortable. I used to always sleep on firm beds
 
Is there such thing as pain free shoulders when you bodybuild, lol.
I hear you but I believe the answer is yes. I'm back at the gym and pushing myself - not for PR's but higher rep/hypertrophy training. It has only been since August 15th that I went back to the gym (and really started to push it) and I decided to make the most of it and spend an extra 15 minutes or as long as it takes to make sure I am warmed up, and did a lot of mobility work whether I feel like it or not. I can't stress the muscle imbalance exercises getting everything aligned properly before you lift anything heavy. The 2lb, 5lb, or 10lb DB's doing the full range of movements from hanging by your side, to straight out to the sides, and then in front, then arms extended up, and do 1 shoulder press and reverse. Sounds like nothing with 10 lbs - for fun try doing this for a few minutes. Probably wasting some energy but worth it to me or I can't hit the heavy bag, can't lift without pain, and shoulders hurt when I'm not working out as well. Since going back to the gym, vs. working out at home - I learned more from the women who do more mobility work in the warm up room - I just ask them politely if they mind if I ask them a few questions and copy a lot of what they do. They are all nice and happy to help. More options with machines, free weights, and I am getting stronger and growing - TRT and a fairly strict diet. For the first time in years I have worked our religiously for 2 plus months and I have not had an issue that made me take any amount of time off.
Just an opinion, but you are correct. Shoulders are used in everything hence why I put this thread up.
 
Yep, I do the same. My shoulders take a beating at work, so if I am working out right after I get home, I don't need to warm up, but if I train later then I do pretty much the same as you.

Last injury was a fluke and it is still healing. Hit a certain point and now I have to wait for the bicep tendon to calm down. The rest of the shoulder is fine now. But from what I could gather at the ultrasound it is still swollen. I didn't get a chance to really read the scale, but my left tendon was a blue on the scale and the right was red. I just keep icing, doing rehab, but I need to take it easy on rehab, I overdid it last night. It is still weaker when lifting in front. Everyday getting better though. If I didn't have to do a labor job, lifting like I do, it would likely be healed by now. I might sling my arm on the weekend. I have finished all my projects (well I have some more, but my wife said to take a rest, lol)

My shoulders have ached my whole life. Too much overhead repetitive lifting with 50+ lbs mixed with constant above shoulder lifting to do things like hang sausage. I remember even when I worked on the dock in my 20's I would be farmer walking 100 lb boxes in each hand by the straps to rearrange every morning and my shoulders ached. Had to rearrange hundreds of boxes each morning. I weighed a big 120lbs back then, lol.

Repetitive strain.

It seems like I just bounce back and forth between each shoulder favoring it, lol.
So maybe my experience is different than others who body build who don't do a job like mine. It would be wonderful to not have shoulder aching of some sort.
 
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I have my right shoulder repaired with 3 anchors and the left one is very weird.

What I found the best to feel strong, confident and pain free is to do rotation exercises in all 360 degrees with pulleys. Having strong rotator cuff is probably indispensable for any weight lifter but we neglect it due to the fact that it is boring as hell.
 
Healthy shoulders? What’s that? Haha.

To keep the pain under control, the only thing that really works is hitting my rotator cuff from every angle 😅

Also found out that sleeping on my side isn’t really the best idea.
 
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