Cruising/TRT with Deca??

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Anyone here have any feedback on using Deca "long term" along side Test?
I'm using 200mg/w of test and honestly will probably stay on this dose for at least another year.
So its a bit higher than a "standard" TRT dose but I also haven't done any "blasting" or have ever gone higher than this dose in quite some time.
Actually quite impressed with what only 200mg/w of test can do.

Anyway...thinking about adding in 100mg of Deca per week just for the potential benefits to joints, etc.
Just looking for any feedback from someone who may have done something similar.
TEST = 200mg /w
DECA = 100mg/w

Thanks.
 
Will be using 300mg/ml so might just end up doing 150 as well to keep it simple. (half ml)
 
I’ve been considering cruising on just deca. Ive been on 175 per week script and it works pretty well but have been thinking about this deca only idea for a while. 🤔🤔
Really? Wow.
Must be some info I haven't come across regarding a deca only cycle.
Would think running without at least 100mg of Test could be a bit of an issue...no?
 
I can’t see any major issue with it. I can’t say I have tried it as me and Nandrolone don’t get along.
 
Wanted to share this as I think even if its something you may never do its worth having in the ol knowledge box.
Thanks to @fatboy88 for originally sharing it in another thread.
@Cheapshot
@The Old Guy


Show Notes:

[2:21] Deca only cycles were used back in the day.

  • A lot of old pro bodybuilders claim that test wasn’t even used in the 60’s.
  • 19-nor test- produced in limited amounts in the body.
  • It was originally introduced to combat breast cancer.
  • The body doesn’t always recognize test as test- it senses an androgen.
[6:06] Is there an enzyme responsible for 19-Nor?

[6:40] today, deca is feared due to erectile disfunction.

[15:45] Deca only cycle to reverse hair loss.

[16:25] How would one transition from test to deca?

  • It is mainly based off of estrogen sensitivity and if the person is using an Ai.
  • You would want to wait ~ 2 weeks after your last test shot before dosing the deca.
[31:07] when will doctors be allowed to prescribe deca without being ostracized?

[32:00] What about the guys on Deca that are still bald?

  • Are they on deca only?
  • A deca only cycle does not guarantee that hair loss will be reversed.
  • There are natty guys that are bald.
[34:41] How long can deca only be ran?

  • It could be ran indefinitely, although Taiean does not like TRT if it is not warranted.
[35:56] Would TRT plus cycled primabolin yield better results?

  • This would depend on the goal.
  • Taiean only suggests compounds that convert to estrogen as a TRT base.
[38:00] Dosage for deca only.

  • The study used 200mg.
  • Deca creates less estrogen than test.
  • 100mg/week for female.
[42:08] 1.6 gram of deca vs 600 mg Tren.

  • Taiean thanks that the deca would yield more muscle growth.
  • Tren builds much more muscle in combination with estradiol.
[45:39] how to combat increases in prolactin.

  • Deca lowered prolactin in clinical settings.
  • Vitamin B6, Bromocryptine.
  • Most prolactin inhibiting drugs affect the heart in an idiopathic manner.- sujective tremor.
[48:15] Increased copper.

[1:00:54] TRT base + 800 mg DECA?

  • 800 mg of deca is wreckless for TRT purposes.
[1:01:58] Test vs. deca brain chemistry?

  • Androgens from both will activate receptors, therefore, different doses are required.
[1:04:42] Anylabtestnow

  • You can pay out of pocket. An HAS is great for this purpose.
  • Not getting labs is shooting in the dark when fixing your health.
[1:06:55] Tren and the kidneys.

  • Can raise blood pressure after the first shot.
  • Modulates flux of electrolyte gradients (specifically calcium).
 
Wanted to share this as I think even if its something you may never do its worth having in the ol knowledge box.
Thanks to @fatboy88 for originally sharing it in another thread.
@Cheapshot
@The Old Guy


Show Notes:

[2:21] Deca only cycles were used back in the day.

  • A lot of old pro bodybuilders claim that test wasn’t even used in the 60’s.
  • 19-nor test- produced in limited amounts in the body.
  • It was originally introduced to combat breast cancer.
  • The body doesn’t always recognize test as test- it senses an androgen.
[6:06] Is there an enzyme responsible for 19-Nor?

[6:40] today, deca is feared due to erectile disfunction.

[15:45] Deca only cycle to reverse hair loss.

[16:25] How would one transition from test to deca?

  • It is mainly based off of estrogen sensitivity and if the person is using an Ai.
  • You would want to wait ~ 2 weeks after your last test shot before dosing the deca.
[31:07] when will doctors be allowed to prescribe deca without being ostracized?

[32:00] What about the guys on Deca that are still bald?

  • Are they on deca only?
  • A deca only cycle does not guarantee that hair loss will be reversed.
  • There are natty guys that are bald.
[34:41] How long can deca only be ran?

  • It could be ran indefinitely, although Taiean does not like TRT if it is not warranted.
[35:56] Would TRT plus cycled primabolin yield better results?

  • This would depend on the goal.
  • Taiean only suggests compounds that convert to estrogen as a TRT base.
[38:00] Dosage for deca only.

  • The study used 200mg.
  • Deca creates less estrogen than test.
  • 100mg/week for female.
[42:08] 1.6 gram of deca vs 600 mg Tren.

  • Taiean thanks that the deca would yield more muscle growth.
  • Tren builds much more muscle in combination with estradiol.
[45:39] how to combat increases in prolactin.

  • Deca lowered prolactin in clinical settings.
  • Vitamin B6, Bromocryptine.
  • Most prolactin inhibiting drugs affect the heart in an idiopathic manner.- sujective tremor.
[48:15] Increased copper.

[1:00:54] TRT base + 800 mg DECA?

  • 800 mg of deca is wreckless for TRT purposes.
[1:01:58] Test vs. deca brain chemistry?

  • Androgens from both will activate receptors, therefore, different doses are required.
[1:04:42] Anylabtestnow

  • You can pay out of pocket. An HAS is great for this purpose.
  • Not getting labs is shooting in the dark when fixing your health.
[1:06:55] Tren and the kidneys.

  • Can raise blood pressure after the first shot.
  • Modulates flux of electrolyte gradients (specifically calcium).
Thanks Great.

Now I’m really considering deca only. Or deca and mast. 🤔🤔

Anyway good to see you back on the regular.
 
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