Crashed Estro

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Canuck83

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My current cycle is

110mg primo ed
60mg mast prop ed
30mg test prop ed
25mg water based winstrol ed
.25mg arimidex ed
10mg nolvadex ed

About 3 weeks ago my small pea sized gyno flared up, my nipples got super puffy and the peas turned into quarter sized masses almost overnight. At the time my test prop was 50mg ed (dropped to 30mg ed) I was only running .25mg arimidex every third day then, so I bumped it to .25mg ed and added 10mg nolvadex along with lowering my test dose. The lumps have slowly subsided, most irritation is gone and puffiness is almost gone. Yesterday and today I’ve felt awful, anxiety, achy joints, wanna cry at the gym lol no pump, dick has disappeared. What’s my next course of action, do I raise my test back up to 50mg ed or higher and keep everything else the same ?! I know it’s a process but the sooner I start the quicker I’ll start to feel better. I have test prop/suspension/proviron/aromasin/nolvadexclomid/arimidex/caber and hcg on hand

I leave Tuesday for vacation and looking like a Greek statue means nothing if my sex drive is that of a 75 year old man lol
 
If you can get your blood work done - get it done at your docs, a clinic, or letsgetchecked. Takes about a week for results with LGC. Based on leaving Tuesday - no time unless you can get it done at a clinic and get the results quickly but most provinces it is a week or two.
Otherwise - you are just guessing.
I wish I had a better suggestion and I’m sure others will but without facts, it’s hard to know what is going on.
If you have cialis or viagra - will help to some degree.
 
You don’t need caber. You are not running deca of tren.
Stop taking the adex, it will correct itself in a couple of days. Don’t change anything else. Thank god you used Adex, aromasin would gave left you feeling like shit for a week.
There is nothing in that cycle that should give you gyno. You were only taking 350 mg of test a week, but enough mast to control that. You should have not needed 2 Adex twice a week on 350 mg of test. Unless you have been really sensitive before.
Pm me with the lab you have used.
If I were to guess, test prop was substituted for your primo, or was a good portion.
Start taking cialis at 5 mg or so a day. You may not feel like sex, but you’ll still get wood, lol.
 
Sorbate said:
You don’t need caber. You are not running deca of tren.
Stop taking the adex, it will correct itself in a couple of days. Don’t change anything else. Thank god you used Adex, aromasin would gave left you feeling like shit for a week.
There is nothing in that cycle that should give you gyno. You were only taking 350 mg of test a week, but enough mast to control that. You should have not needed 2 Adex twice a week on 350 mg of test. Unless you have been really sensitive before.
Pm me with the lab you have used.
If I were to guess, test prop was substituted for your primo, or was a good portion.
Start taking cialis at 5 mg or so a day. You may not feel like sex, but you’ll still get wood, lol.
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I dropped the adex as well as the winstrol, I just added the winstrol a week ago so perhaps that’s the culprit, maybe between the masteron and winny I’m too dry and it’s making me feel worse. I’ll know in a few days
 
Myself, HCG tends to convert to estrogen quite quickly so I would actually take a 500ui of HCG EOD until you know you've turned it around. Just my opinion & what I would do and have done in the past. I constitute the vial and place it in 250ui shots and freeze them anyway so its actually quite easy. I just back load those pins as well so the needle is always virgin and sharp.
 
I never take more than 250ui of HCG at a time, and I do so twice a week. And I'm sure you know HCG can't directly turn into estrogen, but I suppose through the hormone cascade, it could increase E2 levels. I definitely notice it increases prolactin levels. I've also never had to freeze my HCG as well. It keeps 10 weeks just fine in the fridge when re-constituted at 500mg/0.1ml.

I crashed my estro to try my Aromasin out. Took 12.5mg without any other hormones in me, and fuck, I felt like hell. Just cut back on the AIs slowly... It will take around a week to redevelop your Estrogen.

I personally believe you should ALWAYS take 500ui of HCG on cycle. But there's NO need for prolactin inhibitors like caber right now. Those are VERY powerful drugs, that can make humans do some fucked up things. You're not taking a progesterone.

Mast is an AI, dont forget... As is Nicotine, if you smoke. I bet you can drop the adex to 1/4 of your current dose (just grind a pill up and split into equal sized piles) and go from there.
 
Arcygenical said:
I never take more than 250ui of HCG at a time, and I do so twice a week. And I'm sure you know HCG can't directly turn into estrogen, but I suppose through the hormone cascade, it could increase E2 levels. I definitely notice it increases prolactin levels. I've also never had to freeze my HCG as well. It keeps 10 weeks just fine in the fridge when re-constituted at 500mg/0.1ml.

I crashed my estro to try my Aromasin out. Took 12.5mg without any other hormones in me, and fuck, I felt like hell. Just cut back on the AIs slowly... It will take around a week to redevelop your Estrogen.

I personally believe you should ALWAYS take 500ui of HCG on cycle. But there's NO need for prolactin inhibitors like caber right now. Those are VERY powerful drugs, that can make humans do some fucked up things. You're not taking a progesterone.

Mast is an AI, dont forget... As is Nicotine, if you smoke. I bet you can drop the adex to 1/4 of your current dose (just grind a pill up and split into equal sized piles) and go from there.
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Buy a pill cutter, way easier.
 
Arcygenical said:
I never take more than 250ui of HCG at a time, and I do so twice a week. And I'm sure you know HCG can't directly turn into estrogen, but I suppose through the hormone cascade, it could increase E2 levels. I definitely notice it increases prolactin levels. I've also never had to freeze my HCG as well. It keeps 10 weeks just fine in the fridge when re-constituted at 500mg/0.1ml.

I crashed my estro to try my Aromasin out. Took 12.5mg without any other hormones in me, and fuck, I felt like hell. Just cut back on the AIs slowly... It will take around a week to redevelop your Estrogen.

I personally believe you should ALWAYS take 500ui of HCG on cycle. But there's NO need for prolactin inhibitors like caber right now. Those are VERY powerful drugs, that can make humans do some fucked up things. You're not taking a progesterone.

Mast is an AI, dont forget... As is Nicotine, if you smoke. I bet you can drop the adex to 1/4 of your current dose (just grind a pill up and split into equal sized piles) and go from there.
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Yes, I do know that HCG does not directly turn into estrogen and I never said that it did. HCG directly stimulates aromatization & aromatase is the enzyme that converts testosterone to estradiol therefor I believe my statement to be correct because HCG spikes your testosterone which then stimulates more aromatase which then converts to estrogen.....doing this will help him recover from low estrogen quicker.
I also like to take 250ui of HCG 2 times a week so I know exactly how it works and when you're constituting a 10,000ui vial and taking 500ui/week then that is 20 weeks that its floating around in the fridge......hence why I load 250ui into 40 insulin syringes and freeze them.....it's just easy and I am positive that it does not affect the potency at all as I still get all the benefits of the hormone. I was simply giving him the idea that can be frozen once constituted without issue of degrading because I figured he wouldn't be using the whole vial.

Also, Drostanolone is not an AI, it is a drug that has anti estrogenic capabilities.
 
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