BPC157 - interesting article

Goldenrod

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Few human studies so lots of warnings, and anytime angiogenesis is involved - cancer comes to mind.
It is hard to argue with the results and info presented in this article. I found the section on the short half life but how long it continues to work even after one application interesting.
Many people just take BPC157 (I did too) without much research into how it works so well - or should work so well. I just wanted my Achilles tendons to stop screaming at me. This article and any google search, provides a lot of data.
It is very unfortunate that something (my own Ortho said is the most benign peptide and one of the best available) is not being studied in more long term human trials. I also found that comment about some compounding pharmacies mixing it with other products albeit banned from competitive sports, and to my knowledge can't be prescribed or filled.
I would appreciate anyone who understands how the doctors who do this and pharmacies who fill the prescription get around this roadblock without losing their license to practice / law suits, etc. If you take something that can't be prescribed and end up with a serious illness, in today's litigious society, regardless of the cause - there would be a class action suit if enough people took the peptide.
In my business I am familiar with class action suits and even people who have no issues / no disease / no side-effects receive letters from lawyers telling them to contact the law firm as they will get a small payout and the lawyers will take the bulk of it.
Anyway - worth a slow read for those who use this peptide.
 

Few human studies so lots of warnings, and anytime angiogenesis is involved - cancer comes to mind.
It is hard to argue with the results and info presented in this article. I found the section on the short half life but how long it continues to work even after one application interesting.
Many people just take BPC157 (I did too) without much research into how it works so well - or should work so well. I just wanted my Achilles tendons to stop screaming at me. This article and any google search, provides a lot of data.
It is very unfortunate that something (my own Ortho said is the most benign peptide and one of the best available) is not being studied in more long term human trials. I also found that comment about some compounding pharmacies mixing it with other products albeit banned from competitive sports, and to my knowledge can't be prescribed or filled.
I would appreciate anyone who understands how the doctors who do this and pharmacies who fill the prescription get around this roadblock without losing their license to practice / law suits, etc. If you take something that can't be prescribed and end up with a serious illness, in today's litigious society, regardless of the cause - there would be a class action suit if enough people took the peptide.
In my business I am familiar with class action suits and even people who have no issues / no disease / no side-effects receive letters from lawyers telling them to contact the law firm as they will get a small payout and the lawyers will take the bulk of it.
Anyway - worth a slow read for those who use this peptide.

Totally understand, but for many of us it has come down to quality of life..

My shoulder is a mess.. Been off and on for 20 years, but last 5 years its constant and disrupts life (not just my ability to lift weights).. So when 5 years of chiro, physio and altering life haven't really cured it but a little bottle seems to fix it right up... its tough to say no..
 

Few human studies so lots of warnings, and anytime angiogenesis is involved - cancer comes to mind.
It is hard to argue with the results and info presented in this article. I found the section on the short half life but how long it continues to work even after one application interesting.
Many people just take BPC157 (I did too) without much research into how it works so well - or should work so well. I just wanted my Achilles tendons to stop screaming at me. This article and any google search, provides a lot of data.
It is very unfortunate that something (my own Ortho said is the most benign peptide and one of the best available) is not being studied in more long term human trials. I also found that comment about some compounding pharmacies mixing it with other products albeit banned from competitive sports, and to my knowledge can't be prescribed or filled.
I would appreciate anyone who understands how the doctors who do this and pharmacies who fill the prescription get around this roadblock without losing their license to practice / law suits, etc. If you take something that can't be prescribed and end up with a serious illness, in today's litigious society, regardless of the cause - there would be a class action suit if enough people took the peptide.
In my business I am familiar with class action suits and even people who have no issues / no disease / no side-effects receive letters from lawyers telling them to contact the law firm as they will get a small payout and the lawyers will take the bulk of it.
Anyway - worth a slow read for those who use this peptide.
There are a few Drs online, albeit in the US, who are using this in other peptides in their practices.

It’s a bit of a grey area as it’s not really a drug it falls under more of a supplement as it is already naturally occurring in the body. The pharma system are trying their best to slow this process as they cannot patent peptides, just dose and delivery system, ie. redi-ject pens. The Biden gov made most peptides illicit but RFK Jr has brought quite a few back.

As far as human studies if they want a drug in it will happen, think Covid vaccines or gene therapies. This was why they demonized ivermectin. It was having success and would have made it nearly impossible to get the vaccines passed.

Peptides are being used a lot in Europe and the Middle East for cosmetic applications. While Russia and China are using them to build super soldiers. So there is definitely some human trials. 😜
 
There are a few Drs online, albeit in the US, who are using this in other peptides in their practices.

It’s a bit of a grey area as it’s not really a drug it falls under more of a supplement as it is already naturally occurring in the body. The pharma system are trying their best to slow this process as they cannot patent peptides, just dose and delivery system, ie. redi-ject pens. The Biden gov made most peptides illicit but RFK Jr has brought quite a few back.

As far as human studies if they want a drug in it will happen, think Covid vaccines or gene therapies. This was why they demonized ivermectin. It was having success and would have made it nearly impossible to get the vaccines passed.

Peptides are being used a lot in Europe and the Middle East for cosmetic applications. While Russia and China are using them to build super soldiers. So there is definitely some human trials. 😜

ya I get it lol..... It's tough to process the info anyone puts out anymore.. When your own medical system and scientists can not be trusted, we've lost our society..
 
It’s a bit of a grey area as it’s not really a drug it falls under more of a supplement as it is already naturally occurring in the body. The pharma system are trying their best to slow this process as they cannot patent peptides, just dose and delivery system, ie. redi-ject pens. The Biden gov made most peptides illicit but RFK Jr has brought quite a few back.
Here is a news link.
US FDA to convene expert panel to review wider access to some peptides
 
Its hard to know with any certainty the long term effects at this point. Would love to see research but theres no incentive for it in most areas. For me the fact that the US med system is trying so hard to squash it gives it some validity. But when we put these in our body the outcome is not guaranteed. But with that being said many of the regulated meds we take have brutal possible side effects.
 
Just to be clear, I am a fan of BPC157 especially for tendon or ligament injuries. As I have said my Ortho and his son are well known Power lifters and both use it. His words were," it is extremely safe and called it benign". Like everything - if you get legit BPC157, I think you are golden. If you get crap, you will get crap results.
It did not help some muscle injuries or if it did help it helped slightly but what it did with my Achilles tendons was simply incredible. My pack work and play hard and get hurt. Dogs don't know placebo and if your dog is screaming standing up or walking and is on 4 pain meds - tramadol, robaxin, meloxicam, and on lyrica or neurontin with no relief, if you have a heart you would try anything. The results I experienced with my Alpha - a neck and back injury from using his head as a battering ram instead of using his size to take people down (Bouviers do this instead of biting or can be trained to and only rag doll you if you move after they take you down). 2 days of 1 shot of BPC157 500 mcg's and he was getting up and down and walking with pain, day 3 I had to put the leash on his or he wanted to train and play again.
My vet asked how this occurred and I was open, I used a peptides (BPC157) and she wanted to know about it for her husband who lives in chronic pain. Told her I spoke to two doctors and one uses it regularly and support its usage. I never went a day without it being in the house after that. I also kept dexomethasone on hand for his last 2 years as it worked even faster. It is not healing anything, it is a potent anti-inflammatory you inject.
He had flair ups and would scream getting up, so I would give him a micro dose of Dex around his neck/back and tell him to 'place' which means lay on your bed and don't move. Wait a few hours, and he was a puppy again.
Simply magic to people who saw. Dex has side effects but I would rather live my life happy/active in less or no pain for a shorter duration than rust away because I could no move without pain. I felt the same for my dogs, and I always had their best interest at heart.

My comment on angiogenesis and cancer is just a concern I read about with any kind of angiogenesis. if you study the process and how cancer works - it is pretty clear how this could be an issue, but has it made me think twice about BPC157 - nope.

It is most definately not prescribable by a doctor - they can't prescribe supplements either. They can tell you about one, albeit most will not. They can tell you about a peptide, but are on a slippery slope to court if anything goes wrong. No licensed pharmacy can compound it and sell something that they can not sell. It is being done, so when I say they can't do it - legally they can't do it. There is no chance you would have a chance in court if you started having any issues.

If a doctor in Canada knew about the benefits of SAM-e and wrote a script, no pharmacy can fill it even though it is a prescription drug in many countries and has been proven to be a pain reliever with no stomach/bleeding concerns, an antidepressant, and is doled out like candy by vets for any liver disease but a doctor can't give you a script for liver issues even though it good for almost every liver ailment.
I have no idea why Tudca is what people reach for with liver issues, when SAM-e is available, but each to their own.
@The Old Guy - appreciate your comments. I know why companies don't invest in trials, the stages required to make something a drug to sell or get a patent - costs millions and you can't patent a lot of items already unless it is structurally changed/altered somehow to meet the strict guidelines that allow for a new patent. If you get one, you are golden for 5 years (I believe that is the time period) and then you apply for a patent extention before it becomes available as a generic. Unfortunately, if you change it - it may not work as well and is readily available everywhere, it will be forever be a wonderful peptide that is faked, unscrupilous people will take advantage of, etc.

In the US - it is more a wild west at hormone/anti-aging clinics and they prescribe all kinds of hormones you can't get in Canada and peptides that are being provided by the company itself. The company I spoke with was willing to ship HGH, steroids, other products 'we could discuss' to my door for a steep price. I forget the name of the Canadian company but her name was Cindy and it was legit. I know two guys who used them. They were a drug pushing / legit hormone company.

Back to my point - the reason BPC157 works and it's amazing benefits. @animal-inside - I would be taking it daily if it helped me with an injury as well.
 
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