Tren Stories? I've seen some rather interesting partial comments.

Yeah man I get that but comparing sides from tren
to deca is like comparing anavar to anadrol. I don’t want some actual noob reading this thread and thinking that if they ran deca they could be ready for tren.

Not necessarily

Also... I did legs Today and Saturday, so I have energy lol

What follows is not an opinion, it is a known chemical reaction
Prolactin is the main enemy.

High Estrogen TYPICALLY in the presence of a 19nor will act as an agonist on the pituitary.
Triggering it to produce prolactin.

Here is where it gets a little tricky.

Androgenic to Anabolics

Deca
1:3
Tren
5:5

(This is an over simplication, as the compounds will act and bind in differe t ways to the androgen receptors... but I wont get into that, it's not particularly relevant)

soooo, 100 Tren has the equivalent androgenic issues as 500 deca.

We all know that Tren does not aromatise.

HOWEVER, it will ANTAGONIZE the HPTA into over producing prolactin.

So by @Sorbate "Broscience" is actually accurate to a different extent.

Almost no one runs Tren at 100
Starting usually at 200.
That's like a potential (approximatly) 1000mg Nandrolone!
Holy fuck.

This becomes CRAZY in the presence of estrogen.

This can increase dramatically in the presence of Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.
Which a lot of people run with Nandrolone for obvious reasons

SOO
If I for example, ran 500 Test and 500 deca, basic biochem dictates that I will have a similar (But LESSER) reaction than I would with Tren.

And if someone had ZERO sides, it would be a good potential sign that theindividual would react well to Tren.

Sure, the Trensomnia, the anger etc are a different ballgame.
But this isnt apples to oranges.

Its McIntosh to Gala, different growing seasons, different taste... both apples.)

Accurate, perhaps not the best.
A guy who ran 300 deca with no sides... is not safe to run 500 Tren and assume zero sides.

But it can forsure me used a preliminary marker at high Nandrolone doses.

Phew.. that took a fuxkingwhile to type.i

Sorry for the wall of text @DerekD my friend. I had to delve a littledeeper than ithought I would when I started typing lol
 
Not necessarily

Also... I did legs Today and Saturday, so I have energy lol

What follows is not an opinion, it is a known chemical reaction
Prolactin is the main enemy.

High Estrogen TYPICALLY in the presence of a 19nor will act as an agonist on the pituitary.
Triggering it to produce prolactin.

Here is where it gets a little tricky.

Androgenic to Anabolics

Deca
1:3
Tren
5:5

(This is an over simplication, as the compounds will act and bind in differe t ways to the androgen receptors... but I wont get into that, it's not particularly relevant)

soooo, 100 Tren has the equivalent androgenic issues as 500 deca.

We all know that Tren does not aromatise.

HOWEVER, it will ANTAGONIZE the HPTA into over producing prolactin.

So by @Sorbate "Broscience" is actually accurate to a different extent.

Almost no one runs Tren at 100
Starting usually at 200.
That's like a potential (approximatly) 1000mg Nandrolone!
Holy fuck.

This becomes CRAZY in the presence of estrogen.

This can increase dramatically in the presence of Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.
Which a lot of people run with Nandrolone for obvious reasons

SOO
If I for example, ran 500 Test and 500 deca, basic biochem dictates that I will have a similar (But LESSER) reaction than I would with Tren.

And if someone had ZERO sides, it would be a good potential sign that theindividual would react well to Tren.

Sure, the Trensomnia, the anger etc are a different ballgame.
But this isnt apples to oranges.

Its McIntosh to Gala, different growing seasons, different taste... both apples.)

Accurate, perhaps not the best.
A guy who ran 300 deca with no sides... is not safe to run 500 Tren and assume zero sides.

But it can forsure me used a preliminary marker at high Nandrolone doses.

Phew.. that took a fuxkingwhile to type.i

Sorry for the wall of text @DerekD my friend. I had to delve a littledeeper than ithought I would when I started typing lol
Not necessarily

Also... I did legs Today and Saturday, so I have energy lol

What follows is not an opinion, it is a known chemical reaction
Prolactin is the main enemy.

High Estrogen TYPICALLY in the presence of a 19nor will act as an agonist on the pituitary.
Triggering it to produce prolactin.

Here is where it gets a little tricky.

Androgenic to Anabolics

Deca
1:3
Tren
5:5

(This is an over simplication, as the compounds will act and bind in differe t ways to the androgen receptors... but I wont get into that, it's not particularly relevant)

soooo, 100 Tren has the equivalent androgenic issues as 500 deca.

We all know that Tren does not aromatise.

HOWEVER, it will ANTAGONIZE the HPTA into over producing prolactin.

So by @Sorbate "Broscience" is actually accurate to a different extent.

Almost no one runs Tren at 100
Starting usually at 200.
That's like a potential (approximatly) 1000mg Nandrolone!
Holy fuck.

This becomes CRAZY in the presence of estrogen.

This can increase dramatically in the presence of Supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.
Which a lot of people run with Nandrolone for obvious reasons

SOO
If I for example, ran 500 Test and 500 deca, basic biochem dictates that I will have a similar (But LESSER) reaction than I would with Tren.

And if someone had ZERO sides, it would be a good potential sign that theindividual would react well to Tren.

Sure, the Trensomnia, the anger etc are a different ballgame.
But this isnt apples to oranges.

Its McIntosh to Gala, different growing seasons, different taste... both apples.)

Accurate, perhaps not the best.
A guy who ran 300 deca with no sides... is not safe to run 500 Tren and assume zero sides.

But it can forsure me used a preliminary marker at high Nandrolone doses.

Phew.. that took a fuxkingwhile to type.i

Sorry for the wall of text @DerekD my friend. I had to delve a littledeeper than ithought I would when I started typing lol

I get what you’re saying but we don’t really have any concrete human studies on tren which is why I rely more on personal experience. However I do respect that you have put in some effort to know the science on this compound however much more to worry about with tren then it’s anabolic/androgenic characteristics. My statement stands. You can’t compare deca to tren. You will see soon enough my friend.
 
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I get what you’re saying but we don’t really have any concrete human studies on tren which is why I rely more on personal experience. However I do respect that you have put in some effort to know the science on this compound however much more to worry about with tren then it’s anabolic/androgenic characteristics. My statement stands. You can’t compare deca to tren. You will see soon enough my friend.

I wish the French kept better records of their Human Tren studies from back in the day, would have helped us so much!

Yeah, should be a fun ride.

Like I said, my wife is calling the shots on this one.
She says stop, I stop hahaha

Even if I think I'm fine, she makes the final call.

The only way she agreed to me running a Tren cycle..
Couldnt slip it past her either, she helps me pin Glutes, and if she saw that dark color oil... I'd be a dead man lol
 
I wish the French kept better records of their Human Tren studies from back in the day, would have helped us so much!

Yeah, should be a fun ride.

Like I said, my wife is calling the shots on this one.
She says stop, I stop hahaha

Even if I think I'm fine, she makes the final call.

The only way she agreed to me running a Tren cycle..
Couldnt slip it past her either, she helps me pin Glutes, and if she saw that dark color oil... I'd be a dead man lol

Just order some that has a blend with test and tren. Peel the label off and you’re good to go hahah. Honestly tho man it’s a good that you’re giving her control. I didn’t have the mental sides from tren, I’m just lazed focused on it but if my girlfriend said it’s effecting my personality towards her I would drop it instantly. Just starting my third week now running tren E @ 400mg a week. It’s been a couple years since I competed so haven’t had a reason to use it.

keep me updated on how it goes and if you have any questions along the ride feel free to ask. Sounds like you have at least put some homework in so I think you will be better off then most.
 
but this says tren is good for you(or just rats)
https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/157/1/368/2251856

Our data demonstrate that TREN treatment has more marked cardioprotective effects that are partially mediated by the significant reductions in visceral adiposity, circulating triglycerides, and insulin resistance, in a model of TEST-deficient MetS. Compared with TEST treatment, which did not improve any of these measures, TREN also exhibited attenuated adverse effects on heart muscle (fibrosis) and prostate (hyperplasia) morphology.
 
but this says tren is good for you(or just rats)
https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/157/1/368/2251856

Our data demonstrate that TREN treatment has more marked cardioprotective effects that are partially mediated by the significant reductions in visceral adiposity, circulating triglycerides, and insulin resistance, in a model of TEST-deficient MetS. Compared with TEST treatment, which did not improve any of these measures, TREN also exhibited attenuated adverse effects on heart muscle (fibrosis) and prostate (hyperplasia) morphology.

I'll have to look up the OLD ass study on 0laque buildup in the brain causing the insomnia
it creates an issue that is cyclical in nature.

Plaque from Tren = Less sleep.
Less sleep = plaque buildup
Etc etc

My brother is actually working on a plaque solution with his Endo and some research docs our of the states.

So far his Endo jas only truly provided a theory.. which I dint even fully understand.

The hypersexuality is also super dangerous,
Especially when fuxking with a dopamine agonist while on tren.

Anabolic Doc does a good piece on it... howsome his clients cant even have sex unless they run Tren lol.

I'll see if I can find the source material... but I'm heading to work for a night shift so it will have to wait lol
 
I wish the French kept better records of their Human Tren studies from back in the day, would have helped us so much!

Yeah, should be a fun ride.

Like I said, my wife is calling the shots on this one.
She says stop, I stop hahaha

Even if I think I'm fine, she makes the final call.

The only way she agreed to me running a Tren cycle..
Couldnt slip it past her either, she helps me pin Glutes, and if she saw that dark color oil... I'd be a dead man lol

They saw what it did and promptly decided to try to unlearn a part of science(which is pretty impressive considering how dogged scientists are. It was unsuccessfully undone because it's still here despite people having to "try it" before they see if it has serious side effects and is going to mess them up).

There's a reason why there's so little science...it can cause psychosis in some people and THAT is not a drug that is EVER going to get studied/given approval by sanctioning governments for sale so they tried to get rid of it.
 
Just order some that has a blend with test and tren. Peel the label off and you’re good to go hahah. Honestly tho man it’s a good that you’re giving her control. I didn’t have the mental sides from tren, I’m just lazed focused on it but if my girlfriend said it’s effecting my personality towards her I would drop it instantly. Just starting my third week now running tren E @ 400mg a week. It’s been a couple years since I competed so haven’t had a reason to use it.

keep me updated on how it goes and if you have any questions along the ride feel free to ask. Sounds like you have at least put some homework in so I think you will be better off then most.

Appreciate the offer brother.

Also, here is a GREAT chart that illustrates the causes of Prolactin production.

Hilariously enough... it's pretty much a Tren list LMAO

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Fo summarize...
Excess estrogen (Check.. we all use Test with Tre
Excessive exercise stress on the body (No shit lol)
Lack of sleep (Trensomnia)
Dehydration (Do massive night sweats count LOL)
Stress (Caused by irritability and mood swings from Tren)

I know we all know this...But I just find it hilarious that Tren is literally the perfect storm of Prolactin

Just thought it was a cool flow diagram.

What I think everyone will find VERY interesting is the relationship GH plays with Prolactin/Tren specifically.

GH actually acts to STIMULATE breast tissue growth directly in the presence of Prolactin.
Onviously eventually leading to lactation.

The study that had this diagram in it was a Great read
 
Appreciate the offer brother.

Also, here is a GREAT chart that illustrates the causes of Prolactin production.

Hilariously enough... it's pretty much a Tren list LMAO

View attachment 3837

Fo summarize...
Excess estrogen (Check.. we all use Test with Tre
Excessive exercise stress on the body (No shit lol)
Lack of sleep (Trensomnia)
Dehydration (Do massive night sweats count LOL)
Stress (Caused by irritability and mood swings from Tren)

I know we all know this...But I just find it hilarious that Tren is literally the perfect storm of Prolactin

Just thought it was a cool flow diagram.

What I think everyone will find VERY interesting is the relationship GH plays with Prolactin/Tren specifically.

GH actually acts to STIMULATE breast tissue growth directly in the presence of Prolactin.
Onviously eventually leading to lactation.

The study that had this diagram in it was a Great read

yeah man it deff is a great read. It was floating around on another forum a while back. The Anabolic Doc has a video on YouTube about tren. Worth a watch. A lot of his videos are BS but this one actually is decent. Now I do think it’s still blown out of proportion, my bloods after a tren cycle are never great but deff not as bad as one would expect.
 
I seem to tolerate Tren really well, even at a higher dose, but these days I stick to 400/wk max as any more does not seem to make a difference.

I'm not an aggressive person so Tren does nothing to me in this respect. I wake up a couple times a night to piss regardless, so Tren causing a bad sleep is a moot point for me.

No AI, no Caber, no problems at all. The only side is if I exceed 600/wk I get heartburn.

My diet is clean, and I'm always hungry. I'm basically on a vegetarian diet now, but I did have a double 1/4er pounder today (cheat day).

It blows up my libido, but it has no possibility of ruining my relationship because I repel women, so my wife likes when I'm on as I take it all out on her.

Mix with low dose Test and Equal part Mast and its liquid gold. I'm on this right now.

Bottom line: I Love Tren!

That said:
I was nervous about Tren for a while as I did have a friend that ran it who lost his shit from time to time. He'd also nail anything with a pulse and seeing some of the heifers he'd bring home... omg!
 
I seem to tolerate Tren really well, even at a higher dose, but these days I stick to 400/wk max as any more does not seem to make a difference.

I'm not an aggressive person so Tren does nothing to me in this respect. I wake up a couple times a night to piss regardless, so Tren causing a bad sleep is a moot point for me.

No AI, no Caber, no problems at all. The only side is if I exceed 600/wk I get heartburn.

My diet is clean, and I'm always hungry. I'm basically on a vegetarian diet now, but I did have a double 1/4er pounder today (cheat day).

It blows up my libido, but it has no possibility of ruining my relationship because I repel women, so my wife likes when I'm on as I take it all out on her.

Mix with low dose Test and Equal part Mast and its liquid gold. I'm on this right now.

Bottom line: I Love Tren!

That said:
I was nervous about Tren for a while as I did have a friend that ran it who lost his shit from time to time. He'd also nail anything with a pulse and seeing some of the heifers he'd bring home... omg!

Tren = fat fucking pigs need love to
 
Appreciate the offer brother.

Also, here is a GREAT chart that illustrates the causes of Prolactin production.

Hilariously enough... it's pretty much a Tren list LMAO

View attachment 3837

Fo summarize...
Excess estrogen (Check.. we all use Test with Tre
Excessive exercise stress on the body (No shit lol)
Lack of sleep (Trensomnia)
Dehydration (Do massive night sweats count LOL)
Stress (Caused by irritability and mood swings from Tren)

I know we all know this...But I just find it hilarious that Tren is literally the perfect storm of Prolactin

Just thought it was a cool flow diagram.
this is being done in canada?

Just one of my brothers pet projects.
He has to much time and money.
 
I wish the French kept better records of their Human Tren studies from back in the day, would have helped us so much!

Yeah, should be a fun ride.

Like I said, my wife is calling the shots on this one.
She says stop, I stop hahaha

Even if I think I'm fine, she makes the final call.

The only way she agreed to me running a Tren cycle..
Couldnt slip it past her either, she helps me pin Glutes, and if she saw that dark color oil... I'd be a dead man lol

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I may have spoken a bit too soon. My run has ramped up and I'm getting totally mind fucked right now. Low dose at only 300/wk with similar dose Test and Mast, but its playing games with me big time. It's only happened once before at double the dose, but not this hard. Perhaps I'm making use of more hormones at the lower dose? Good thing I'm an ugly guy and shy, and the girl in question has no idea I exist, otherwise I'd knock her up without a second guess and flush my whole life down the toilet, lol. Just have to ride this one out, sure is fun though.

For you guys in relationships that have good looks or game please be very careful on Tren.
 
tren story. met this guy through a friend. seemed normal, nice, good looking, good-natured young guy. my buddy says he grew up east coast, son of a criminal, studied ninjitsu at a local club, would take kickboxing vacations in Thailand. my buddy also says this guy, once a year does a tren cycle and puts on 70lbs and goes on a fuck and fight tear. the story goes he went with him to vegas on such tears. fought 2 monster bodyguards on separate occasions and won, fought a lower weight UFC fighter and won. he also said almost every night this guy at the club would single out the girl he liked and tell her early on she was coming to his room that night. she would say fk no and he would leave and party with his bros. later he would just find her and she'd follow. this crew was the wildest guys I've ever met that weren't full criminals and didn't need to make up stories.
 
AHAHAAHA! I'm sorry but I'm picturing you jackhammering her into the headboard as she takes the lord's name in vain in between begging for more. (and more lube)

Padding/pillows on the headboard to stop any concussions for your girlfriend, check. Spaceage quality lube for when she goes bone dry, check. Lithium, clonazepam and lamotrigine supplies topped off, check. Industrial strength psychologist to talk me down off the ceiling, check.
Ahhh but you've just made it sound so attractive! GAH! I sadly must turn it down though.

Sounds like quite the ride! (for everyone involved)
Headboards won't last on your typical box store stuff.
 
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